Well here's a semblance of the old agnostic. com. that i thought had died,. Intelligent people talking intelligently about a subject i don't have the foundation to appreciate. Nevertheless, the voices enchant me and the near total absence of such conversation in the outside world leaves me hungry for more. It reminds me of that famous HP Lovecraft story about an eons old troglodyte outcast, making his way slowly up the slimy walls of his cave home, toward a sliver of the light of day, and finally emerging into the glorious beauty of a blue sky and an open meadow. He hears the voices of assembled reasonable quality minds coming from a farmhouse at the bottom of the hilltop he's emerged from. He find himself beyond his own control, running to that house, he bursts through the door, he is met with a chorus of screams of horror. He runs out the door, back up the hill, back into his darkness.

I ask you, as that outcast, as that self conscious monster who has no choice but to serve the truth, who has asked you this same question many times and been met each and every time with a stony wall of silence ......... why can't you devote a few moments of intelligent dialog to the racial question of the Orwellian climate of alleged "white entitlement" and a thousand other harbingers of black "new thought". And,. why won't you deal with the massive front and center evidence of black criminality and social disintegration , and the amazing total silence about and disappearance of the world famous 1965 MOYNIHAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMISSION REPORT that thoroughly documented it? Isn't all that at the least a contributing factor to this "brave new world" of "black oppression" propaganda that bids to saturate the media for eternity, or till our material profligacy put an end to our species reign of terror? Please talk about the 800 pound gorrilla.

Enough already with middle eastern and southernn european mythology.

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The Mediterranean countries we're smart enough to adopt the traditional northern European celebrations and tailor them to their mythology.

In addition they offered their idyllic life after death promises which I don't think any of the northern European mythologies offered. Eternal life is a hard thing to outdo.

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The Mediterranean countries we're smart enough to adopt the traditional northern European celebrations and tailor them to their mythology.

Maybe there is a lot of truth in that. But there is a lot of evidence and history which indicates that it was, in the main, much more brutally simple than that. The South European cultures especially the Roman and Greek simply had a cultural history of colonization, knew how to do it well, and when the Roman Empire failed as a military power, the churches, both Greek and Roman, simply carried on with the cultural imperialism. They could do that in part because of the prestige of the former empire, was seen as both a military and national ideal, and also as a prize to be won, by many they wished to colonize. Which made the conquest easy, since the ruling classes were all too willing to be colonized, and then to force their adopted culture on to the much more reluctant, and slower to uptake, people. Especially since the Southern cultures still enjoyed the better climate, plus access to the trading routes of the Mediterranean sea etc.. And many think that you win the cultural wars, by adopting the most prestigious culture as well as its trade for yourself, often the reverse of a military conquest.

So that the mythology of the Norse, Germanic and Slavic, were simply the ones who lost the culture wars and got colonized, by the imperial churches. In part because the leaders of the of those lands were willing to sell out their gods for silks, wines, some fancy titles and paintings.

I'm not sure but I can check into it.