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I look at the pictures of Palestinian dead and injured, mangled almost to a point beyond recognition, suffering in agony and grief and terror if alive, the children without any understanding as to why... as I would seeing high beams on the road at night while driving. Looking directly at them for any length of time would burn their images into my retinas forever. I need to remain able to function, that I might reach my destination. Palestine will be free.

~ LanceThruster

WilliamCharles 8 Aug 7
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I keep an Israeli info tab on my desktop.

So sad/frightening what's going on there...

And I had a Jewish mother.

Embarrassing.

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Will there/can there ever be peace in that region?

We could start by enforcing the Symington Amendment. Israel is a rogue nuclear nation that has not signed the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty). They are an apartheid nation committing war crimes on the US dime.

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I grew up with the conventional wisdom believing that the Israelis were the "white hats" and that the Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims were the "black hats." After 9/11, I wanted to know more about the conflict in the ME. I came to the realization that the narrative was totally one-sided. I largely credit many outstanding Jewish voices (my close friend Bernie the Attorney for one) for opening my eyes. I see on a daily basis the efforts by Zionists and their stooges to dismiss truth-tellers in the most reprehensible manner, up to and including threats of violence.

Truth needs no army of thugs to establish it; only lies need enforcers.

~ LanceThruster

@WilliamCharles I'm unfamiliar with the Symington Amendment. Thanks for the ''pointer"

@LucyLoohoo - some relevant details here:

[israellobby.org]

@WilliamCharles Thanks, again. I'll be sharing/talking with a very wise friend who's experienced in the ME issues...convoluted as they are! Like you, I ''grew up'' with the view of Israel as absolutely heroic in their effort to rebuild a nation for themselves. After WW2--they deserved it.

But...things got convoluted and hard to follow.

@WilliamCharles Here's the comment from my friend...

"It’s complicated. Arab nationalists were attacking Jews during the British Mandate, well before the formation of the State of Israel. Jews had been living on property sold to them by Arabs. In 1948, about 800,000 Arabs either fled or were forced out of the newly formed state. They found themselves in “refugee camps” in all of the surrounding Arab countries. These countries refused to assimilate them, choosing instead to keep them as a weapon against Israel. For example, about 60% of the Jordanian population is Palestinian. In 1967, Israel finds itself with greatly increased territory: the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza.

Israel starts out as a largely secular, socialist state. However, over successive years, the Ultra Orthodox , breeding as they do like rabbits, gets more and more political power and push the country further and further right and militaristic.

So, we are now in a situation where Arab Israeli citizens have largely achieved the same status as our black population. That is to say that their neighborhoods are crime ridden and underserved. Arabs living in the West Bank have to deal with an extremely corrupt Palestinian government that would be kicked out in a minute if elections were ever held.

Gaza, ruled with an iron fist by Hamas, refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist, opting instead for a state of constant warfare. Islamic Jihad, which is the second most powerful element in Gaza continues to launch missiles into Israel at the slightest provocation.

Hezbollah, which has 150,000 missile pointed at Israeli cities, is funded by Iran and constantly threatens to attack.

So Israel is under constant threat of attack by enemies in Syria, Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. When the present government in the West Bank falls, there will be attacks from that quarter as well.

However, I think that the most dangerous enemy they have is the Orthodox and ultra-orthodox who keep the kettle boiling at every opportunity.

It’s all fouled up with no relief in sight."

@LucyLoohoo -

"Since the mid-1970s, there's been an international consensus for resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict. [...] It's called a two-state settlement, and a two-state settlement is pretty straightforward, uncomplicated. Israel has to fully withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza and Jerusalem, in accordance with the fundamental principle of international law, [...] that it's inadmissible to acquire territory by war. The West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem, having been acquired by war, it's inadmissible for Israel to keep them. They have to be returned. On the Palestinian side and also the side of the neighboring Arab states, they have to recognize Israel's right to live in peace and security with its neighbors. That was the quid pro quo: recognition of Israel, Palestinian right to self-determination in the West Bank and Gaza with its capital in Jerusalem. That's the international consensus. It's not complicated. It's also not controversial."

~ Norman Finkelstein

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