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I need to post this often. So many people demand the perfect and lose the possible. We should never give up on what we consider the perfect. At the same time, we must remember our system only gives us two choices in the end. Not choosing means we usually get our least favorite choice.

Lorajay 9 Aug 21
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This exactly why first past the post democracy is a deeply flawed system, as only those who participate in voting are considered to exist.
In a true democracy the votes cast on either side must be considered as a percentage of the entire potential electorate with a win being decided on a situation where 50% of the entire electorate + 1.5%.

The UK Brexit referendum was a prize example of this
The potential electorate was approximately 55,000,000
17,000,000 (approx) voted to leave 31% (rounded down)
16,500, 000 (approx) voted to remain 30% (rounded down)
21,000,000 (approx) abstained 39% (rounded down)

Meaning approximately 69% of the population of 4 countries were completely ignored for either disagreeing or refusing to participate in a total farce.
Even if we count only those who did vote
50% voted to leave
49.25% voted to remain
Meaning 0.75% of those who chose to vote made the decision for 100% of the total population

This we call democracy.

What would have been the brexit outcome using your formula?

@Lorajay We would have stayed in by a 2:1 margin

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If your choice is between Cersei Lannister and Ramsey Bolton, it doesn't matter who you vote for or even if you vote.

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I vote for ice cream.

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Yup. This is the idiocy of the Bernie Bros through and through.

Seems to be everyone.

@rainmanjr Not those that voted correctly...

@ChestRockfield There currently is no "correct" way to vote. Humans are turning out to be incapable of handling co-existence so it's time for us all to go. Sooner the better so we don't fuck up Mars.

@rainmanjr That's another topic, and I don't disagree. As for our current state where there's no magical button that ends all human life, there was a correct vote in '16.

@ChestRockfield In the general, there was, and I cast that vote. In the caucus I cast it for Bernie (2016 and 2020). Defeat shouldn't mean ultimate defeat but purists lose that sense of mission.

@rainmanjr My rule is always vote for the candidate you think would be the best in the primary and always vote for the better candidate/lesser of two evils in the general. Because of Duverger's Law, literally nothing else makes sense in a two party system.

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