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I think it is unreal, when I try to speak to anyone at work or in a professional environment (when someone forces religious conversations on me I don't want to engage in) about why I am not religious and don't want to hear about it, that they counter with more proselytizing. Lol. Like can I have ONE DAMN DAY WHERE I CAN BE RELIGIOUS-JARGON FREE?

EXAMPLE:

I don't like coffee. Counter..But have you tried some MORE OF IT?

ClareCK 5 Feb 23
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"You believe in a god? You have my DEEPEST sympathy."

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It never happened to me. One of my great good fortunes, is to live in a country where religion is only considered to be respectable as a below surface part of life. And public mentioning of it is actually looked on as bad manners.

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I enjoy being the non-believer. Most of my coworkers are young, and we live in the bible belt. They reverently place bibles and crosses where they belong and feel miserable about it. I tell them to give said objects to me, and I toss them across the room into the appropriate boxes

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One of my neighbors is a religious zealot...he stated one time he would make me "find Jesus...if he had to beat me senseless to do it"...dude has some serious issues. He is a spooky, jumpy, little turd who loves tRUMP. 😂 he used to be a manager at a Sony Plant that has since folded...can not imagine what it would have been like working under him...smfh

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That's why I work for myself, and even have a contract for my clients that when they work with me it will be a secular experience and not a worship service. I'm so glad I don't have to listen to any proselytizing from anyone. A choice I made and seem to have a fair amount of respect for speaking my mind in a gentle sort of way, so as not to ruffle any feathers.

I guess trying to bridge the gap so the religious folks who attend my services go home with a better understanding of what a humanistic outlook is, so perhaps not so judgmental to others going forward.

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You can’t escape the religious. Try wearing noise canceling headphones. I live out in the country outside of Syracuse, NY. I thought I had escaped the religious. Then my wife converted to reform Judaism. I just make myself scarce.

When you work with a ton of people a day at your job it is literally unavoidable. I have always had forward-facing positions with the public and internal positions with the public but a specific type. I have no option to work for myself. So some of us through our occupations in America are stuck. Trying to reason with magical thinking doesn't work, so I ignore mentions of gods. Until I cannot. Then I say, I am not religious. I am also not the type to work from home as I would go insane. I did it for a year and HATED IT. I need to have a day and go and be in the world not live in a chair and on a laptop. Not for me. I can ignore about 80% of the magical thinking, get fed up with 10% and am baffled by the other 10% of people's inability to understand some of us don't care about religion.

@ClareCK The preachy Christian’s don’t seem to be as aggressive in upstate NY. During my working years as a scientist, I didn’t encounter missionary Christians. As a secular Jew, I had a different perspective on religion. But those annoying religious encounters are more frequent now. Times have changed and the zealots seem to have permission to be missionaries.

@ADKSparky welcome to politics mixed with religion as a weaponized spear of hate. I see it so much at work and in public now. I often stop people trying to get me into political or religious conversation by asking them what their hobbies are or what their favorite food is. It mostly works.

@ClareCK I socialize with a few running clubs. I never talk politics, vaccination, or religion. I can always turn a conversation to our latest running injury. 😊

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I had a similar discussion recently...they brought up their God bs and when it came around to me I told them they were just as athiest as I was. I just didn't believe in just one more god than they do... this is now my favorite response when they start preaching. I refuse to keep silent and listen to their nonsense.

Funny!!!!

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Yeah, good luck and have fun....btw, you really need to get over your fear of the necessity of a hot cup of coffee in the morning..try a medium roast Jamaican Blue Mountain..just sayin

Coffee is disgusting. I prefer hot chocolate or Turkish tea with rock sugar from Belgium. Sorry. Never will drink nasty coffee. Not my vibe.

I never understood the term roast when it comes to coffee. Wth does that even mean? Lol
Medium roasted over a spit?
I never go into Starbucks or coffee places so have 0 familiarity with coffee talk.. I think coffee is a religion in America too. Lol

If you mean by religion any belief that is not based in scientifically verifiable facts, then there are certainly many religions to which people unwittingly adhere and parrot as though they were referring to some universal truth. As with all beliefs and those who hold them it proves to be invariably a waste of time engaging in conversation as the believer, whatever the belief held, will use the situation and your remarks to reinforce their beliefs. I have found that many people express their belief(s) in an attempt to seek confirmation and very rarely do they express their beliefs as topic of enquiry.

The number of believers in a religion or any belief for that matter does not constitute a fact(s) by any stretch of the imagination and all the world’s religions merely serve as a case in point.

Historically, it was heretics (branded heretics) who paved the way for freedom of thought and enquiry and many of them were horrendously tortured and burned alive at the stake as a warning to anyone who would dare question the established authority of the Catholic Church. I wonder what would be deemed contemporary heresies.

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Not in a nation heavily dominated by a particular religion. No, you can't. Do you celebrate Xmas? How about Easter or Passover? The casual dropping of religious commentary is a big alarm that causes many to start getting noisier against the trend. That's where we are, today, but I think the response's strategy sucks.

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I love to converse with them. Three favorites ways to get them really riled up are; 1. Penal substitution atonement. The fun begins with whether or not they know what it is. 2. Jannes and Jambres as an example of oral tradition to directly dispute Sola Scriptura. 3. And my most favorite is when I go off on a polygamist tangent and ask them whether theIr faith Is strong enough to embrace multiple wives. It’s a riot!

By the way, “ ONE DAMN DAY WHERE I CAN BE RELIGIOUS-JARGON FREE?” Doesn’t the damn in one damn day kind of fall into the category of religious jargon?

We are surrounded, hang in there. Try to have fun with it if you can.

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This is easy. Depending on where you live this is a fundalist Christian nation. If worse it's Christian nationalist. I never ever speak about my beliefs with anyone I don't know really well. It's inviting trouble. It's not needed. We are not changing any minds. They have to come to it on their own.

Step back.

I never discuss religion with anyone. It's foisted on me usually by people who seek control over their own lives or others.

I will never put up with religious terrorism on me. Nope. They bring it up, I dress it down. No thank you! I am weary of placating magical thinkers.

Like Carlin said, when someone tells you what kind of day to have, tell em I have other plans! Ahaha

@ClareCK
I absolutely love it when someone tells me to have a nice/blessed/great/etc. Day! I typically respond with 'Dont tell me what the hell to do!'

@BOBdammit or as Carlin also said, fuck you very much, I have other plans! Ahaha his voice is missed, especially now post Rona with all the batshittery afoot.

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Why oh why are you annoying shoppers minding their own business? get help!

I think she's getting talked to first about religion.

@Beowulfsfriend she distinctly states She tries to talk to others and gets jargon back......

Shoppers? Get help? Who are you talking to and about what? If it's my post, you are responding to, I said at work people do not stop talking about religion. I don't deal with "shoppers" as I work a professional job. So my statement was about wanting to keep things professional at work.

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Give them a taste of their own medicine, read up on Zeus, tell them he is your god, wear their asses down with facts about Zeus, how he does not claim to be perfect, bla, bla, bla, or like I do sometimes, I'll tell them that my god is a purple and white polka-dotted winged elephant that flies around the planet Saturn, with a unicorn stuffed up its ass, which is a story no less ridiculous than their bull shit story.

Lol fun but i don't believe productive.

@Bigwavedave When you reflect back to people their own behavior, it actually CAN be productive, because it gives them a window into their own behavior, which is so obvious to everyone except them.
But as for insisting that everything you do is "productive" . . . . Can you imagine analyzing every second of your day, to assure it is "productive"? That is insane. Maybe you also suppose humor has no value whatsoever too . . . . If that's the case, it's got to be one hell of a boring life.

Hahaha love it!

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I hear you completely but most religions take a couple of different approaches to this. They are told by their scriptures to try and win you over, plus most of them think you simply never heard their gospel or version of it. None of them ever think you might have once been a believer but now have stopped. These people also do not get it when you claim there is no evidence to believe. They then start quoting their scriptures as evidence when in fact that is only the claim. They just do not get it.

Taking this all back a bit people need to explore when we got the scriptures we know today, how we got them and what year was this decided. It's all not what most people think.

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They just want to burden you with what they feel you should be burden with what they were indoctrinated!!!

Truth!

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