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Bottom line: Prominent Southern Baptist leader Paige Patterson tells women being abused by their husbands that divorce is not an option, and that they should “stay and pray,” because “the Bible makes clear the way in which God views divorce.”

"In a recently released tape first reported on by the Texas Statesman, Patterson was asked what he recommends for women “who are undergoing genuine physical abuse from their husbands, and the husband says they should submit.”'

[patheos.com]

Angelface 7 May 1
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They should for complicity in abuse

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I'm sorry, I can't refrain from saying it...OMFG!

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Control, control and more control.
As @ToakReon says "Women as the property of men.

No."

Women as male property is a piece of biblical bullshit that underlies many evils, from rape to the sad self-flagellation of the Incel movement. It hurts everyone it touches, and that's all of us.

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Women as the property of men.

No.

If someone is abusing you, then 'god' saying you should stay with them and submit to them is god (or, more accurately, those who believe in them) supporting the abuse.

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I learned one specific lesson In studying comparative religions in .The only "prayer" that accomplishes anything is one of gratitude.
Now I lead a life as a student of the obvious, appreciation and gratitude have become my best friends. They are feelings that exist within me, and because of them I have more and more to appreciate and feel grateful. Neither require a power outside of my self to which I express my feelings. There is a wholeness within that is a source of continuing discovery. One such discovery is that there are far more answers than questions.
Physical abuse has no home where it is not welcome or tolerated. Where it is not nourished or invited it cannot continue to exist.
If my comment seems full of platitudes, remember that the strongest among us are the kindest.

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I recall my dad saying once that we all put our pants on one leg at a time when asked about versus friendships. While not toy on point with this subject, whenever we as humans, put one sex, one color, one ethnicity, one class over another; we will have these issues.
I remember when my first husband returned broken from Vietnam and focused on my pregnancy as somehow taking away from him. The Red Cross and the military chain of command all focused on me staying with him while those serving with him counseled me to run. I ran.

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I have two friends in women's shelters because of bullshit like this (and other bullshit excuses). I tolerate none of it. It makes my blood boil.

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What a dick! (The man in the article, not the op)

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Don't forget here folks, a strange man in a funny outfit reading from a man-made book, thriving off of hard earned dollars collected in a brass plated bowl, knows all there is to know about everything. (intense sarcasm)

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It as if these southern baptist leaders were just born bad because only a lunatic will tell a woman to submit to abuse.

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If ever someone deserved a glasgow kiss I think we have a candidate

Just a wee mild, don't you think?

@evidentialist Not if properly delivered.....Repeatedly.

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Yeah, those women love it, and they've been brainwashed from birth to act like cows in a butcher shop. If you stepped in to defend the women you're talking about from their husbands, those same women would report you to the police and you would be arrested for assaulting their husband. And the current local cops already know who is abusing who, and aren't enforcing the law. So, please, anybody, explain a practical solution to me

Practical education from primary on up.

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That’s Horrible. There aren’t many better reasons to divorce someone.

CS60 Level 7 May 1, 2018
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Every single one of these people (male or female-women 'pastors' do it, too), ought to
be prosecuted for fraud, and for portraying themselves as psychologists without licenses.
It's stuff like this that makes me more of an anti-theist, every single day.
Religion is harmful and dangerous to the well-being of all people.

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This guy really should just go fuck himself.

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I fully expect to hear that from these types of people.

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