Renowned liberal Atheist Richard Dawkins claims Liberals and Leftists are cowards in regards to Islam
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.There have been so many words wasted on the term, "god" and so much lip service paid to describing the concept or justifying its existence, if only to rationalize one's own use of the word "god". I thought that the very use of the word to describe the meaning behind the word, could be considered a "cop-out", as if to use the term was to acknowledge it's existence. If that were true, non-believers would be recused from using the term as if just using it required admitting it is something real, and thusly being guilty of hypocrisy . Therefore I decided to relegate it into simple semantic terms. We use the word, therefore it exists. I, as an "agnostic" claim the right to use the word, if only because it does exist, just as I use the word "infinity" or "Heaven" even though I can not describe them or prove that they exist. Here, then is what I say when asked if I believe in "god".
What is god?: God is a concept, and a name given to what we do not understand , and the subject of many symbols, none of which has a claim to exclusivity.
Many years ago, for the reasons I just described, I wrote a song, which I later included in my book of poetry "Food for Thought", in which I take the liberty of ascribing a sort of "anthropomorphic" quality to the term. This, for reasons of "poetic license" should naturally not be taken literally. It merely states that god can be anything you want it to be.
“God and Man”
(An agnostic’s view of the deity)I am the writing on the wall
I am the smoke signals that rise
I am the autumn leaves that fall
against the brisk October skies
It’s hard to say just how I feel
I only know I must be right
I am the ever turning wheel
I am the darkness… I’m the light
God and man…they are one
The winter snow and the summer sun
I’m in God…God’s in me
Throughout the long eternity
If death should take me from life’s stride
I know that I’ll return again
I am the ever changing tide
I am the essence of all men
I am the Moon to light your way
I am the sun to warm the Earth
I was a child of yesterday
I am the miracle of birth
The mysteries of all the Earth
Are hidden deep within my soul
I come from death and end in birth
I am a part…I am the whole
God and man, they are one
The winter snow and the summer sun
I'm in God, God's in me
Throughout the long eternity
“If God lived on Earth, people would
break his windows’”……….Fiddler on the Roof
“God is a comedian playing to an audience
who are afraid to laugh”……….Voltaire
fishline79
Level 7
Mar 18, 2023
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I agree with Dawkins's stances on atheism but I hate how he can be a prick. It is one thing to think all religion is bunk but quite another to post it on a religious site during their holiday, as he did about Islam during Ramadan. Also, Islamophobia is often thinly veiled racism. eg. I have been amazed at how much some people suddenly care so much about how an animal is killed for food if it is halal but never said a word about kosher. Also, it is really easy for white supremacists to jump on anti-Islamic comments and subvert them for their own purposes.
273kelvin
Level 8
Mar 10, 2023
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The accusations of racism baffles me as virtually all north African and central European countries have a proportion of Muslims so how can criticism of Islam be racist.
@Moravian Whilst it is true that there are some central European countries that are Islamic. Most Muslims hail from places where the skin is of a darker hue. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Turkey, Sudan, Syria etc. So a racist thug can say; "Oh I've no problem with skin tone. I just firebombed that halal shop because Im an animal lover". Okay maybe firebomb is a bit strong but I have heard these idiots go on about halal food on a hotel's menu.
In the 20th Century, secular people usually bent over backwards to be tolerant and polite to religious, believing that the momentum was towards secularism and reason. What did that get us? Religious authoritarianism in the 21st Century. To hell with politeness. Sometimes you have to be a prick. I hope he continues to be a prick.
@David1955 Well Dawkins grew up in the same country as I did, with an established religion and the momentum HAS swung towards us at majority "no religion". Btw that includes Muslims at 6.5% of pop.
The same sense of good manners that would prevent me from being a prick about my atheism, prevents my Christian and Muslim friends from doing the same.
Richard Dawkins defending a religion, any religion ... that HAS to be a lie.
Normanbites
Level 7
Mar 10, 2023
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Ryo1:
Ryo1:
If you think the point of the original post is about Dawkins defending religion, you're missing the whole point, mate.
Yes he does does he?:
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Someone not Dawkins: “I honestly don't know what I would do if I were pregnant with a kid with Down Syndrome. Real ethical dilemma.”
RD: “Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice.”
Egads not going to quote:
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“Of course you can have an opinion about Islam without having read Qur'an. You don't have to read Mein Kampf to have an opinion about nazism.”
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“Living in a university it's easy to forget the mean IQ of the population at large is 100, & 50% of them are in the bottom half.”
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“Oh NO. Just checked my privilege. Turns out I'm a white heterosexual male. [campusreform.org] How can I atone? Hair shirt? Flagellation?”
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“Bin Laden has won, in airports of the world every day. I had a little jar of honey, now thrown away by rule-bound dundridges. STUPID waste.”
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“It’s one thing to deplore eugenics on ideological, political, moral grounds. It’s quite another to conclude that it wouldn’t work in practice. Of course it would. It works for cows, horses, pigs, dogs & roses. Why on earth wouldn’t it work for humans? Facts ignore ideology.”
And for real fun look up the infamous “Dear Muslima”…
@Ryo1
Religion was used as a tool also. for Germany was a strong Christian nation in 1st ans 2nd world war as Hitler was born and died as a catholic. Although I agree with Dawkins that nationalism is more dangerous than religion. I think centroism does more harm than good.
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