I am no supporter of Trump, but the issue is clear, with no ambiguity whatsoever.
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Archeus_Lore
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Aug 27, 2023
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Nope nothing fishy here at all . . . . Biden admitting that he arranged to have Former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin fired, who happened to be investigating Burisma, while Biden was serving as US vice president, because Biden did not want the word getting out that he had received a bribe from a Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer.
It is not unusual for arrogant clowns, like both Biden and Trump, to brag about some of the illegal things they have done.
Archeus_Lore
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Aug 26, 2023
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Trump is using an old cult trick just like the Nazis did. Just keep spewing the lies over and over again even when all evidence is clear and contrary to the lies.
This notorious Catholic understood this concept: "FOR HOW SHALL WE FILL PEOPLE WITH BLIND FAITH in the correctness of a doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constant changes in its outward structure? Here, too, we can learn by the example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and in part quite superfluously, COMES INTO COLLISION WITH EXACT SCIENCE AND RESEARCH, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one little syllable of its dogmas - IT IS ONLY SUCH DOGMAS WHICH LEND TO THE WHOLE BODY THE CHARACTER OF A FAITH." [Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 5]
"I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been rejected. The Church has realized that ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING can be built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or irreconcilable with it. THE FAITHFUL WILL SWALLOW IT WHOLE, SO LONG AS LOGICAL REASONING IS NEVER ALLOWED TO BE BROUGHT TO BEAR ON IT" [Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction, pp. 239-40
"Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise." - Adolf Hitler
See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the "truth" to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda. - George W. Bush
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Nazi Joseph Goebbels
"If you say it enough and keep saying it, they'll start to believe you." - Donald J. Trump
"I play to people's fantasies," he wrote in "The Art of the Deal." "People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole." - Donald J. Trump
Evidence is shown and accepted, lies are pushed and BELIEVED by those who reject evidence.
nogod4me
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Aug 26, 2023
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Everyone seems to be responding as if they think that I think Trump is innocent; I don't. However, I don't think BIDEN is innocent either, and that is the crux of the whole argument . . . . When they go after Biden with the same fanaticism, I will then change my view, but I do not think that will happen. That is the argument, NOT that Trump is innocent.
According to Steve Bannon he and Donald Trump created the Deep State. Some of us need to think on that for a while.
DenoPenno
Level 9
Aug 26, 2023
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Everyone seems to be responding as if they think that I think Trump is innocent; I don't. However, I don't think BIDEN is innocent either, and that is the crux of the whole argument . . . . When they go after Biden with the same fanaticism, I will then change my view, but I do not think that will happen. That is the argument, NOT that Trump is innocent. The Deep State invented the Russia this, and the Russia that bull shit, and Trump had nothing to do with that, it was used to attack Trump. That clearly shows your claim to be false, why would the Deep State, if invented by Trump and Bannon, attack their own creators? Some of us need to think on that for a while.
@Archeus_Lore You state: "The Deep State invented the Russia this, and the Russia that bull shit, and Trump had nothing to do with that..."
You must present evidence for that statement, just because you believe something doesn't make it true.
Believers are a waste of time because they refuse to accept truth, facts, and evidence. Who cares what believers believe. Present evidence.
@nogod4me The previous "evidence" that you are so blind as not to see is that the whole Russia is the enemy invention was used against Trump. If you can't see that, then you may as well give up on the conversation, because no matter what proof I provide, it will be insufficient for you. You can find all the evidence you want just by looking
Hillary was constantly attacking Trump as being closely associated with Russia, and it was she who brought up Russia in the first place. But you insist that Trump created the Deep State! You have no clue what you are talking about, because it is more than obvious that the Deep State existed long before Trump. In fact, it is proof of you ignorance!
@Archeus_Lore The simple idea was to get followers to believe in a Deep State. A similar idea is used when the bible blames things on the Devil. You show where you stands when yon instantly start talking about Biden. I do not see Biden blaming anything on the Deep State.
@DenoPenno Why would Biden (or Clinton) complain about an organization they belong to? Also, if you have not figured it out yet, Trump was a surprise anomaly . . . . he was not pre-selected by the Deep State, like Clinton and Biden, (practically every president is, regardless of party) and after all, why do you suppose they have the exclusive two-party system if it is not for preventing people like Trump from winning the presidency . . . . Do you understand just how difficult it is for a third-party to form, let alone get their candidate elected? As for Clinton, she was so stupid, she wanted Trump as a rival, because she thought he would make an ass out of himself, (which he did anyway), and be the perfect rival loser stool pidgeon. Clinton's association with Henry Kissinger, the connoseur of chaos is well-known, and if Kissinger is not Deep State, then your mama's apple pie has road apples in it! Have you not ever noticed how presidents have to lie to get elected, like Obama did? They have to claim they are anti-war, that they will get us out of all these foreign engagements, only to flip the minute their feet land in the White House? No matter which party is elected, the foreign wars never cease? That is the work of the Deep State . . . . but people now seem to think that the Deep State is party-specific, it is not. That is one of the problems when I mention one candidate from either party, whichever party I mention, the idiots on the feed automatically jump to the conclusion that I am whichever party that the post does not criticize, or whichever party the post appears to show in a positive way. Both parties are filled with ignorant people who listen to the mainstream media's bull shit and think they have all the answers, they behave just like the fucking bible-wavers, they read or listen to just one set of biased sources, then assume they have the full picture of what is going on, and they jump to conclusions based on insufficient information. The war is Ukraine is a perfect example of that.
There is a big difference between those who uncover evidence of malfeasance and blow the whistle and those who commit malfeasance, lie about it, incite violence against those who would hold them accountable, elicit a cult a following, and consistently deny they committed the crimes when all evidence is against them. Especially, when that evidence is blatantly evident.
nogod4me
Level 8
Aug 26, 2023
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Everyone seems to be responding as if they think that I think Trump is innocent; I don't. However, I don't think BIDEN is innocent either, and that is the crux of the whole argument . . . . When they go after Biden with the same fanaticism, I will then change my view, but I do not think that will happen. That is the argument, NOT that Trump is innocent. That Biden has not been prosecuted is clearly supporting my case. And . . . . That evidence is blatantly evident.
"... when they go after Biden with the same fanaticism..." I call BS @Archeus_Lore
@Archeus_Lore What evidence against Biden are you referring to?
@Archeus_Lore who is the "they" that are going after trump like fanatics ? is it the deep deep deeeeeeeeep state ? HAHAHAHAHA !! I call BS
@nogod4me I love the fact that you cannot comprehend what you try to read and make sense of what is written . . . . Find the text in what I posted that proves that I support Trump.
You can't.
@nogod4me, @Leetx I suppose you therefore can explain how Hunter Biden was hired by the Ukrainian energy company, Burisma, in 2013, with no relevant experience whatsoever, was paid huge sums of money, Why three major corporations bought millions of acres of land in Ukraine immediately after the 2014 US-sponsored coup . . . . no planning there at all, right?
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And I also suppose, that since you seem to think Biden is so great, that you also support sending billions of dollars to this butt naked clown Biden has such a hard on for . . .
@Archeus_Lore I said the meme supports Trump, you posted it.
@Archeus_Lore You should send your "evidence" to the Justice Department. You are laughable.
@nogod4me Your failure to understand logic and reasonalbe statements clearly demonstrates that there is no point in wasting time with you . . . .
@Archeus_Lore you forgot to mention who is fanatically going after Trump, and I guess we are still pretending that Gym Jordan, MTG, and the rest of the mouth breathing twits are not FANATICALLY going after Biden. you are dismissed Magat
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