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Quite disappointed in Elon Musk, always thought he was a man of principal, willing to go against the flow of popular opinion to stand for what he believed was right. Now, he has become a "useful idiot" for Zionism. I will tell you why.
After commenting on the war on Gaza he was of course accused of being "antisemite", so he went to Israel. All he has done is given legitimacy to the war criminal Netanyahu by meeting with him. Similar to that other useful idiot in failed politician "Lord Cameron" from the UK. Legitimise a war criminal not only to the world but more importantly, the Israeli population. Netanyahu is in deep political shit at home.

What Musk should have done to squash the antisemite bollocks is;

  1. Join the Rabbi's protesting on the streets in America who are burning Israeli flags
  2. Go to Israel if he chooses, but give the war criminal Netanyahu a big snub and join the protestors outside his residence instead.

Problem solvered.
NB If Cameron got a "Lord" gong for causing Brexit, I'm wondering when they will Knight Boris Johnson for extending the Ukraine war.

puff 8 Nov 28
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Quash this intrepid use of philosophy and meaning.

Create jerusalem as a holy city, tourist mecca admin by the three believers.

Palestine the west bank.

World government.

Once you create Palestine, 3 million Palestinians refugees in Lebanon and Jordan will return home eg West Bank not enough.
How about demolish all illegal settlements for starters and cease the occupation. I do agree with you and the Ottomans had the right idea eg Jerusalem a territory, not a state ie no one owns it because the three stooges religions can't learn how to share.
Safe passage for all who wish to leave Israel occupied territories.

@puff

When you are ordained His Beneficence I shall attend you as Financial Aficionado.

@Polemicist Joke all you like, if Israel continues it's campaign in Gaza there will be war. I fear American's will only wake up when a carrier is sunk. Everyone crapped on how Russia threatened with nukes. Well, Netanyahu is mad enough to use them.
Scares the shit out of me.

@puff

I wasn't joking I'd prefer world government.

Presumably you refer to a broader war in the Middle East than this inevitable horror.

How would the USA lose an aircraft carrier?

Why would Israel need to nuke anyone?

@Polemicist They, Israeli Zionists, have a Samson doctrine eg if we go down, everyone goes down. Netanyahu is on a religious mission to achieve his "Land of Israel". Zionist Xtians think that will be the second coming. This ex marine was onto the situation years ago.

Modern warfare, aircraft carriers can be taken out easily now. Turkey may be a NATO allie, but if push comes to shove, they will not be supporting Israel. They have a very large drone fleet, the biggest military in the area. Hezbollah also have the capability. Pakistan has already stated if Israel use nukes, they will direct theirs to Israel. Iran also has a good conventional missile arsenal.

Erdogan of Turkey is also the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood eg he has a lot of influence in the Islamic Arab world. If he says "It's on", it will be on.
Disregarding a US carrier being targeted (really depends on how the US would react to Israeli aggression against a Turkish aid fleet leaving soon for Gaza), Hezbollah could overrun Israel, a much larger and professional, war hardened (Syria) force than Hamas.
If this happens, the "Samson" option would be used by Netanyahu as he is already a cornered man, facing corruption charges and now, war crimes if the war stops. He really is a dangerous man, ignoring world opinion, and should be removed, has to be removed, in order for the assault on Gaza to stop.
If after Oct 7th the IDF retook the kibbutz's and drove Hamas back to Gaza then stopped, the world, including me, would be on their side. Instead, they chose the psycho, vengeance option to take out the whole population and drive them to the desert. Genocide, no other word for it I mean come on, bombing refugee camp?
NB not into a world govt, looking forward to a multipolar world though.

@puff I agree and there is war already.

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Musk, a man of principle? I know a Robber Barron authoritarian when I see one, and I saw him that way right from the start. Americans are besotted by wealth and rich 'winners', oblivious to the reality behind such people.

He pushed back on govt agencies interference with social media, he gave Ukraine free access to Starlink but removed that once it was weaponised by them. I applauded those actions whilst MSM/ govt did the opposite. It appeared to me he was not solely driven by profit and had morals.

Just saw an interview with him where part of his self devised 3 point peace plan was changing education of Palestinians, indicating they are taught to hate Jews atm. Netanyahu obviously exposed him to propaganda for Musk to reach that conclusion, probably showing the copy of Mein Kampf allegedly found in a child's room, reported previously as justification for the indiscriminate assault on Gaza; The IDF is not interested in rescuing hostages or precision assaults on Hamas, just kill the "animals" as Netanyahu openly thinks of Palestinians (all Arabs actually) to make way for a "Land of Israel" as promised in the "Goat herder's guide".
Musk failed to mention anything about occupation, the real reason Palestinians are taught, through real and brutal actions by the IDF, to "hate Jews" if they actually really do. Think they just hate occupation.

Geneva convention; You have the right to resist occupation.
Also Geneva convention: Occupiers have no right of self defense.

I may have been a tad naive in my assessment of Musk, not anymore. Useful idiot he is.

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