Thinking out loud again.

There is a common cliche among apologists which goes. “You need religion because you can not derive morals from reason or science.”

Well if you come up against that argument, here goes for one, perhaps not very good example, but at least short, and easy. I am sure there are many better ones, but you only need one example, that is enough to refute the argument.

Question. Do I wish to be happy, safe, and content ? Answer. Yes.
Question. Do I think it more likely that I shall be happy, safe, and content, if I live in a world where most people are happy, safe and content ? Answer. Yes. (You could encounter a fool who will answer. "Not sure" But just move on. )
Question. Therefore, is it worth making investment in a generally happy safe and content world ? Do you know of any others, preferably short neat ones, that can be used ?