It also should be no surprise that leaders in the Israeli government (not random Jews on social media) have called for the genocide of Palestinians. I've heard Jew say that they were taught that there was no Palestine (erasing a whole demographic) and thus those who live their had no right to the land their ancestors lived for generations. I've seen video of Zionist Jews sitting on a hill cheering the bombing of Gaza and IDF soldiers signing a song about how there are no innocent Palestinians and that they all should die.

UNRWA can't be expected to be bigot-free unless all its staff are non-Muslims

Why?

I find it odd that you only see the bigotry on one side of the conflict. As if apartheid, 70 years of occupation and open calls for genocide from the leadership of the Israeli government are benign and don't contribute negatively to the conflict at all.

Wow, and not a word did you say anything about what the Israelis is teaching their children about Palestinians. I wonder why you omitted that?

You better have bloody programed your AI with empathy for all living things, not just humans. If not, it will be focused on one species ie selfish ie psychopathic. Need AI to grow our food and build stuff better, not police us.
The case here is an even hand for justice. We have been told for 2 years Russia invading Ukraine is unacceptable (this after Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria), but Israel Gaza? Go for your life. People see the hypocrisy. 13,000 get punished in Gaza, but another 17000 work for the UN supplying aid to Palestinians in the West Bank, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon eg everywhere Palestinians have been forced to take refuge. Israel is protected.
It's a piss poor performance by the morally superior West. We support colonial genocide.
I fully support the Persians if it comes to a fight for them against American imperialism invading their country. If that happens Americans may forget any civil war as a lot of cells in the US will be activated because you may be sure they will bring the fight to American soil. Rather silly letting all those undocumented migrants in as some wish the US harm.

@redbai There never was a country called Palistine. The area was under Ottoman rule until after WW1 and then was under British rule.

@Alienbeing [en.wikipedia.org]

Palestine, officially the State of Palestine is a state in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. Founded on 15 November 1988 and officially governed by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), it claims the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip as its territory, all of which has been Israeli-occupied territories since the 1967 Six-Day War.

@redbai I find it odd that you think I can't see the bigotry on the other side of the conflict when I very clearly said "None of that makes UNRWA's work unimportant for the innocent Palestinians trapped in this nightmare who need to be fed and protected instead of being caught up in Israel's genocide." Note the last two words of that. There are two bigoted sides involved and I don't support either of them.

@Jolanta The issue was about UNRWA, so that's what I discussed in the first paragraph. Then I discussed the wider problem and said "And it isn't just Gaza and Muslim societies that need this, but all societies the world over." There many bigoted countries about, and plenty of non-Muslim ones that drive terrorism and genocide.

@puff If you use the right computational morality, it works fine regardless of race and species, and it automatically handles aliens and artificial sentience too. And it absolutely must police everything because humans simply can't be trusted to do that job without bias, leading to minorities being abused at every turn.

Jews used too live throughout what is now the Arab world, but they were systematically driven out or murdered, leaving only tiny pockets of them now here and there, and no one campaigns for them to get their lands back. Do any of those countries which back the Palestinians want to invite Jews back in and to pay reparations for all the genocides against them? No: they still want to wipe out all the Jews. Where is the even hand for justice? It's all hypocrisy everywhere you look.

@David_Cooper Bigotry is not the only motivation for genocide.

@David_Cooper Fuck right off Zionist. Jews know where the land of their origins and history is. They don't have to own it to the exclusion of all others.
Fuck off with the "antisemitic" shite. Lots of Jews do not approve of what Israel does in their name in the here and now. Many don't even believe in a Jewish state. There are Jewish populations around the world.
Zionism is extreme religion and every single person on this site should not support any religious state but especially an extreme one.
And fuck off with your persecution too as every single people in the history of people has been fucked over by other people so boo hoo, happened to everyone else as well.

We all live in the here and now. "Never again" means never again stand by and allow genocide you toss bag. So I'm not but you are and cry "Holocaust" when Gaza will be the new standard for genocide now. Jews are no longer the most persecuted people in the world, Palestinians are. By the Zionist Jews!!!!!!!
Colonialism aka seizing land and dispersing the indigenous population is no longer kosher, get it through your thick skull.

You know what all morals are based in? Like every single one? Empathy, something lacking in the we are god's chosen people and therefore the master race and can do anything we want mob. You know who needs morals written down? Those that lack empathy but they tend to favour themselves with their morals, imposing them on others.

Program empathy because 100% sure humans can't get any written morals straight. Empathy for all life, including the ones who don't care about human gods or endeavors.

@puff Zionist! Your interpretation skills are woeful. Are you (and the moron who clicked like on your comment) incapable of recognising that when someone calls Israel's bombing of Gaza genocide, they clearly aren't siding with that terrorist government and its Zionist aims? The way Zionists keep chipping away at the West Bank by stealing land and killing people is disgusting in the extreme. There are two vile sides involved in the conflict, and blameless victims on both sides too. Stop flinging your insults at neutrals and learn to understand what you're reading. And computational morality is a mathematically resolved issue which is automatically an implementation of empathy.

@David_Cooper Please do read my post on using the word Jews to describe what is going on in Israel/ Gaza. Call them Zionist Israeli's or else we disparage all jews. Israel may claim to represent all Jews and Judaism but they do not. Call them Zionist religious extremists, it is what they are.
And don't fall for all the shit on Hamas. Yes they started as terrorist but after winning office, mellowed out somewhat as these things happens. Oct 7th was a military defeat for the IDF; the most secure border in the world and they got caught sleeping, 2 battalions gone with the IDF destroying their own barracks because it was over run. Then many more killed in response, burnt cars buried ie evidence hidden. When Palestinians are accused of being members of Hamas they are often members of civil governance, which is Hamas as they govern.
If Israel did not brutally militarily occupy Palestine and continue to seize more land, there would be no Hamas or Oct 7th. We all have to right to resist occupation, it's in the UN charter. If occupiers face resistance and respond, it is not self defense because they should not be there.
So fuck Israeli's, fuck the Zionists and especially Christian Zionists who support this. Many Jews are loudly condemning Israel which is what they need to do.
So stop saying Jews, it platys into Zionist propaganda.

@puff I wish you were right, but it isn't only Zionists that they hate, and it isn't just a small minority doing that hating. Where have the Jews gone from the rest of the Arab world? There are entire countries with none left.

@David_Cooper But a healthy presence in Iran. Syria took most Christian refugees from Iraq. There are less Jews in Arab countries now than prior to 9/11 and who's fault would that be? Who created daesh? Who destroyed the ME with wars of freedom? Who made Jews feel unsafe in the ME. Could it be the actions of Israel and their proxy the US?

@puff It's been going on for one and a half millennia, during most of which time there was no Israel and no US. There are hardly any Jews left in Iran - only a tenth of the number that were there in 1948 - and with their decline taking the numbers down fast towards zero without needing any push, Iran's happy to pose as being tolerant of them, while those Jews also have to condemn Zionism in order to be tolerated.

@David_Cooper Many many Jews oppose Zionism as they don't want a land if the cost is genociding others as they have been persecuted forever. Don't need to be religious to work that out, just need empathy which is severely lacking in Israeli's, the self declared "chosen ones". Master race fascist shite. I posted a story the other day about Iranian Jews. Israel pays people to come to Israel, the Iranian Jews also identify as Persians and told Israel to FO.

@puff Clearly the best answer would be a single-state solution in which the only land that Jews occupy is land that they legally bought, but they'd still need a guarantee that if they become the minority there they have some kind of protection against genocide and lesser discrimination. This is something that democracy cannot handle adequately.

@David_Cooper The thing with Arabs, they respect strong leadership. Good, bad, as long as it's strong. A lot of nutters in the Arab world which need to be suppressed. This needs strong leadership.
Saddam Hussain' Iraq was a brutal dictatorship in many ways, but he was secular. He protected minorities like Jewish communities from the radical Islamists. When that country was destroyed, most fled to Syria because Syria is also secular with minorities protected. Assad is a strong leader. Same Ghaddafi and Libya. Why ME "democracies" differ from our Western ones. Corrupt? Sure. But so are ours. I agree, a single state called Palestine with a secular government and laws eg totally separate religion and government, like Syria. Look what happens when you remove strong leadership and leave a vacuum. ISIS/ daesh
Israel does not take minority refugees because they are racist fucks.

@puff It's self-protection to avoid being taken over by Islam, and we're developing the same problem in the West too. This is why we need to replace democracy with dictatorship by AGI with all rules being governed by computational morality so that all minorities are fully protected and majorities have no advantage over them.

@David_Cooper By minorities do you mean endangered species because of human endeavor? If not, you better.

@puff The specific kind of computational morality needed for this is similar to the golden rule, and it's called the golden method. It's based on a simple idea:-

In a single-participant system there's no need for morality as the best course of action for that single participant can be worked out through harm-benefit calculations, and this works regardless of the species of that individual.

In a multiple-participant system, morality comes into play, but any multiple-participant system can be treated as if it's a single-participant simply by imagining that a single participant repeatedly travels back in time to live the lives of all the participants in turn, and this reduces morality to the exact same type of harm-benefit calculations as in a single-participant system. Whatever is best for that individual is automatically moral.

This is utilitarianism fully debugged and perfected. It also accounts for how many people there should be in a system, thereby providing answers to the (mathematically broken) Mere Addition Paradox.

@redbai NOTHING in the article you cited contradicted what I said. There was NEVER a country called Palestine.

@Alienbeing The article defined the Palestine State. You not wanting to accept that is irrelevant to the truth.

@redbai The article did not, your reading comprehension is apparently poor.

@Alienbeing You're a liar, a card you play quite a bit.

@redbai Go back to sleep.

@Alienbeing Well, at least you're not denying that you're a liar.

@redbai I would say you are pityful except for the fact that you are a total racist.

@Alienbeing Still not denying you're a liar. I guess there's to much evidence for you to deny it.

@redbai Yoyr relplies are so stupid that they aren't worth mention, so I will cease to respond to your stupidity.

Get life..... and some education.

@Alienbeing Leaving as the liar you are.

@redbai Your replies are so stupid they desreve no answer so from now on if you reply all you will see is "see above". Bye bye racist.

@Alienbeing So you lied when you said you would cease to respond. So predictable.

@redbai Changed my mind racist, live with it, and see above.

How is creating a distraction from the fact that it was found that Israel is plausibly committing genocide "the right thing"? How is collectively punishing all Palestinians for the acts of a few "the right thing"?

@redbai I don't agree that Israel "plausibly" committed genocide. The Gaza strip general population and Hamas are virtually impossible to separate. Israel is doing the right thing.

@Alienbeing Your disagreement doesn't make it factual. The court saw and evaluated more evidence than you have and 17 people disagree with you after doing so. Since you cannot plausible pretend that you have information related to the subject your opinion is less credible. The idea that thousands of children must die because Israel doesn't have the intelligence capability to determine the difference between INNOCENT CHILDREN and Hamas is Israel's fault. It certainly doesn't justify their actions.

@redbai No it does not, however based on what I read (and I read all the time) it is factual.

Get lost with the "innocent children" or innocent anything else. Hamas stated the war, Palistenians in the Gaza Strip overwhelminhly voted Hamas in power, so they must live with their voting decision, just as Germans had to live with their bad decision regarding Nazi's in the 1930's.

@Alienbeing The only way your argument works is if you ignored everything that happened prior to October 7. A generally racist attitude of those who want to justify the genocide.

@redbai You need to learn about races prior to playing the race card; which by the way is your favorite ploy.

BOTH Arabs and Jews are the SAME race, ie. Semites. Accordingly nothing between the two can be racist.

@Alienbeing Semite is not a race. The reason you see the race card in my comments is because you say a lot of racist things.

@redbai Semite is a race (although there are good arguments for there being no races at all) your lack of knowledge is showing again.

@Alienbeing There you go relying on the lying card again.

@redbai You illustrate your poor language skills. IF (and there really is no if) I was wrong it would be a mistake. However i am not wrong you are merely ignorant.

@Alienbeing So you call your lies "mistakes". Interesting bit of denial you live your life by.

@redbai Now you CLEARLY illustrate your inability to read. I said "IF" and followed that by saying ther was NO if. To help you with your reading inability what that means is there was NO if, so there was NO mistake.

Get some English classes, your need such instruction.

@Alienbeing No, you're just lying about there being "NO if".

@redbai See above