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Heather Cox Richardson's Politics Chat from 2/20/2024

silverotter11 9 Feb 21
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Rather long. My objection to Biden is Palestine.

And every president before him back to Truman. Nice idea but very poorly executed.

Often presidents hands are tied. I long history of supporting Zionist Israel> Now the world has seen how bad Zionism and Netanyahu really are but it takes time to make the changes based on the changing information. Add to that the republican just waiting to make something out of us cutting support for Israel and it presents a real conundrum.
I am also strongly at odds with his immigration policy. This one issue is dividing this country and no others. It's time we recognized we need to stop assimilating millions of others that neither speak our language, understand our laws and increase our per capita carbon footprint.

@jackjr Immigration is a fact of life with global warming. Immigration is also caused by the usa bombing everyone it wants in order to install fascist puppet leaders who allow the states to destroy their economies but make the installed pupets very rich and able to get refuge when the S hits the F. In the process the USA gets control of resources and the impoverished countrymen are forced to leave their land or die/starve.

@rogerbenham Problem is excess immigration is only a fact if we allow it to be. Too many think we are the worst offenders in destroying others economies and we need to own up with our guilt by bringing as many immigrants as possible. In the process we are destroying our own economy and even worse, the planet. This is and I have submitted a lot of links about overpopulation. I have been deeply involved in what was once a basic fact of life but, as usual, industries have made the constant growth economic system the no. 1 issue. People who do not understand the basic facts of life on this finite planet will always get it wrong. Japan has been criticized for it's lack of assimilating immigrants. Japan has long exceeded it's carrying capacity and reduction of their population has actually helped the country. Bottom line, is one to believe scientists (population demographics is a science) or some profit motivated corporation?
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@jackjr Europe I can see has a problem. The situation in Africa is worsening with drought increasing. Add too many people and local wars, the obvious place to go is north but the population there cannot absorb more. The Islam that the immigrants bring clashes with the Christianity and unrest foments. The only area with space is Siberia and few want to go there.
There is only one place in South America and sadly that is the Amazon rain forest. So people fleeing conflict or drought flee to where there is still lots of space - the USA. There is in Canada but relatively little is habitable. Winter will keep many out but my fear living on the edge of habitable is an inpouring ofcity dwellers. Only 5% of BC is habitable.
And cities and largely where immigrants head and cities increasingly expand into farmland. And urban spread environmentally is a disaster.
We have exceeded the desirable population everywhere and so damn those people everywhere who have more than two children. M yparents had 4 but the world population was 1.4 of today's.

@rogerbenham Again, overpopulation is the root of all our (and thousands of other people's problems. Yes we have 'space' but most of that space is needed to grow food or to be used for resources. At one time it had been shown the average U.S resident needed 34 acres to provide all the resources they needed. That has been revised upward. We keep trying to build and develop just to keep up with out population growth. The big problem few talk about is it takes a LOT more money to assimilate people who do not peak our language or even know our laws. Corporations say they are needed as they work cheap and are malleable but sooner or later these people will get tired of being treated as 3rd class citizens (as they should) and will revolt.

@jackjr Yes. Agreed.

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