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Why Do So Many Workers Love Trump?
By Jared Abbott

'Racism and xenophobia are a part of why so many ordinary workers were won over to Donald Trump, but that's far from the whole story. A careful study breaks down how Trump spoke to economic grievances and personal experiences.'

'It’s been eight years since Trump first won the presidency. If progressives want to keep him out of office, they should start by taking his working-class appeal seriously — right now — before it’s too late.'

[jacobin.com]

Ryo1 8 Aug 24
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It is easy. Because the democratic party is so bad. Trump would not be a thing if the US had not turned into a genocide supporting fascist governance. Democrats can fuck off calling all racist and misogynistic too who dare disagree with the party line. They have no problems killing women and children or creating false hope for people in places like Libya and Afghanistan. If you side with Iran, Russia or China you will feel the full force of their racism. Do I need to mention how you will be treated if you support Palestinians? (just look at who was denied at the DNC)
Trump is going to romp it home because of democrat failures so don't blame anyone else.

puff Level 8 Aug 24, 2024
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Hopefully Trump will win and straighten out this country from the mess this country is in after 12 of the last 16 years of the White House being controlled by the crazy idiotic democrats!!

I have no idea. I live in England. I have read many articles and watched interviews, etc. about what is going on in your country from both left and right perspectives, and I find it interesting that despite differences in political beliefs, they all seem to agree on one thing: 'the government is so divorced from ordinary people, millions and millions of them, that they are not listening to the people they are supposed to represent and serve, and they keep breaking promises they made'. Similar things are happening in Europe including the UK (riots), hence the rise of pupulism which is often associated with anti-establishment sentiment. It's high time for really serious grownup constructive conversations to be had by both sides, or the political gulf will only get wider and wider. There is a significant degree of disillusionment in society already.

@Ryo1 And yes populism works as the UK has changed policy on illegal immigration now.

@puff Not sure... The labour goverment has recently been talking about accommodating those who arrived in small boats in empty unoccupied houses across England and Wales. You could imagine a considerable degree of anger coming from ordinary hard-working people. How about people who can't afford to buy houses? How about people who became homeless because they suffered domestic violence, sexual abuse, etc. so that they had to run away from their own homes? Again, this is a typical example of how the UK government (both Tory and Labour) is ignoring ordinary people. There are so many issues surrounding illegal immigration.

@Ryo1 Here in the US we have been flooded with illegals ever since Biden became president. If Camala becomes president I’m afraid it will be even worse as she favors sanctuary cities and states and promises to welcome illegals.

@Trajan61
When there isn't an appropriate system to determine who is a genuine asylum seeker and who is not, there is always a risk of letting in dangerous people like terrorists. Meanwhile, of course, everybody deserves better life and is allowed to travel and settle in a different country from theirs, but they will have to go through all the necessary legal procedures to be allowed in like all the other 'legal' immigrants.

@Ryo1 I have no problem with legal vetted immigration. It’s illegal unvetted immigration I have a problem with and we’ve had a lot of that under Biden and will likely have even more if Harris is elected.

@Trajan61 Wait and see; they might come up with better immigration policies.

@Ryo1 After over 3.5 years of open borders I don’t trust the democrats on borders. Hell that crazy Biden stopped construction of the border wall and opened the US southern border on day one of his administration!!

@Ryo1 And the democrats favor sanctuary cities and states! Why would anybody trust them on borders!

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I'm sorry, but as a life-long "worker" myself, (cotton mills, factories, shipyards, server/bartender and etc.) I really resent being classed as stupid and gullible.
You would not believe the amount of higher education degrees who were happy to have a good union job in the nuclear submarine shipyard with regular hours and well-defined parameters of what constituted Good Work.
In addition, the UAW has just come out strongly against drump.
This post is Offensive to me and my fellow workers!!!!!!
If you expect to woo us with this kind of thing, I have some Choice shipyard language for you........
AND BTW I was a fervent Bernie supporter, it was the elitist Hillary that turned us off.

Jared Abbott, the writer of the article, is a researcher at the Center for Working-Class Politics and a contributor to Jacobin and Catalyst: A Journal of Theory and Strategy.Jacobin is a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture.

Exactly, well said.

@Ryo1 not everybody who is "somebody" is correct all of the time on everything.

@annewimsey500
Check this out. [workingclasspolitics.org]

@Ryo1 white I appreciate their objectives, they Clearly have no idea what a turn-off it is for Any group to be lumped under some heading or other.
In 1974(?) MS Magazine was launched,..I was the first woman to enter the shipyard as a hands-on worker, due to changes in laws, and it was So Wonderful to have all the benefits of a good union job whereas before I had 3 part-time "woman's jobs" with not one benefit.
So I excitedly purchased a subscription. Total disgust immediately followedIt It was Entirely for women who sat at desks, and denigrating of Anyone ( man or woman) who worked with their hands.
This was a time when there were Exciting real advances and opportunities that women Needed and Wanted, but nooooo, if you get dirty during your day you are Not Worthy of our "sisterhood". Never mind that at the bottom of the pay scale in the shipyard i was already making about twice what these "sisters" were, with plenty more to come, they were better than me.......to which there are several shipyard phrases in reply.
In fact there was an attempt to restrict the few women who worked in the actual Yard from using the bathrooms closest to our work area as the office workers there did not want "dirty shipyard girls" using "their" bathroom. Something I personally fought through the union and the main instigator of it, who would floss her teeth after lunch in the mirror there and leave bits of food ejected On the mirror.......
But I digress.....
IMO the main problem began when Reagan et al worked hard to kill off/emasculated Unions. We had strong unions in the shipyard ( one for each class of trade but with a united council) and thus had great benefits. Once a large group workers became convinced/witnessed they had no voice in many areas, the stage was set for weirdness/disaffectation to set in.
Feeling worthless and powerless makes for a very bad outlook and extreme "solutions" easily seem more attractive.
I grew up when literally everyone simply expected to be upwardly mobile, the desire to keep and enhance the systems (education, for example) that were making that possible were STRONG.

@annewimsey500
As an outsider, I couldn't possibly comment - sorry. But Thanks for your insightful input. Very interesting.

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