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There are lots of bad choices when it comes to being indoctrinated into a religion. Why would you choose to a religion invented by a hack science fiction writer (L. Ron Hubbard) in the 1940s and 50s? Scientology makes less sense than most.

schwinnrider 6 May 26
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Age makes it better? 60 years vs 150 years vs 2000 years vs 5000 years? They're all hack writers.

Ozman Level 7 May 27, 2018
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“I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.” - Einstein

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Scientology is frightening. The stories I've heard about it blows my mind. From what I understand it didn't start out that way; LRH originally had good intentions, but the thing kind of got blown up into a cult in the late 60's/early 70's, and then when David Miscavige took over in the early 80's it got warped out of control.

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It's a , just like being a Mormon. These tax free, so called religious organizations expect one to forsake their families if they don't believe their way. A major scam.

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All religions are businesses meant to fleece the gullible. L Ron Hubbard wanted to make and it was an easy way to get rich.
When I was young people from the temple we belonged to, wanted to know how much my father made to charge appropriate dues. My father told them to off and he will what he feels is appropriate.
It involves greed and ego.

jab60 Level 6 May 27, 2018
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There isn't a single "good" religion...they all formed for bad reasons and with bad intentions.

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I reckon Scientology only exists to make the Jehovas Witnesses look sane.

I can only presume that devotion promises rewards that aren't available from the more conventional religious options.

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There are lots of bad choices and so little time to make them...

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He sounded like he knew a truth.... people fell for it.

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I don't even understand why it is called religion. I know someone buried in that organization. Of course she tried to talked me into it. Sent me the book of dianetics (spelling? Can't remember, that much I care). Out of respect for our friendship I read the book. Let me summarize things for you... WHAT A LOAD OF NONSENSE. I cannot make heads or tails as of why anybody would fall for that.... Unbelievable (at least to me )

I've seem a program about it on TV and have heard some things about it, and it sounds ridiculous. It surprises me how people like Tom Cruise can fall for it.

@MST3K my only rational explanation is that successful people like him (or Travolta or many others) may be empty to certain extent and something has to fill that void. Now, if we dig a little deeper, this puzzle me even more. Travolta is allegedly a pilot, which requires knowledge of physics and math. I cannot believe a person with that knowledge and/or skills could buy into such magnanimous and ridiculous nonsense. Perhaps the reason behind the courtain for these two is that they just love the spot light and that's all. Unfortunately a lot of inocent people have paid dearly and this mess keeps on going today.

@IamNobody People can be infinitely gifted in one or two aspects of their lives, personalities, &/or set of interests/knowledge, but be devoid of anything beyond that narrow scope. Consider the (pardon the outdated term) "idiot savant".

Perhaps the thespians (and other assorted " visibility/popular" professionals) who get drawn into Scientology's orbit are varying examples of that concept. Sure, they can act (dance, cook, build, etc.) and do so VERY well, but perhaps that is the bulk of who and what they are.

It's sad that there is so much bullshit being taught to so many people, and that so many people fall for it.

@LurknessMonster actually to be fair, that's a question for them.... Wait, Matt Lauer asked Tom Cruise and his response was so aggressively defensive that kind of says he doesn't really know he is in that organization. You're right, that is the bulk of who they are....... Now, going the extra mile, I myself think they are weak minded and that set them to believe anything if they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If anything they need a helping hand. As I understand it, once the organization grab them then they cannot break ties and that should be at least illegal, let alone all the shady financial implications. This is an ugly reality

@MST3K They pamper the celebrities up the wazoo. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Scientology people had some "dirt" on these celebrities that they can use to control them; they're very good at that.

@bleurowz you're absolutely correct, they "audit" everyone and keep it on record. That's the dirt. Again, that should be illegal. It's called extortion

That might explain it.

@MST3K A lot of ideological nonsense is purveyed to the general public by charlatans to fill a hole in one's soul. :/

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I used to enjoy some of Hubbard's writing, and remember him postulating about starting a "religion" to make money....sad

I mean this in all respect to your opinion but you're the first person I've ever heard say they enjoyed some of his writing.

@buzz13 I was 11.......

@AnneWimsey Ok, I see, there was a lot of pulp Sci/Fi back when. He was Fiends with Jack Parsons of 'Jet Propulsion Laboratory' fame and Aleister Crowley, noted evil nut job. Robert Heinlein alluded to him as a joke.

@buzz13 yes, but an 11 year old got stars in her eyes from all the new ideas....the golden age of sci-fi!

@AnneWimsey Oh yes, there was a treasure trove of Sci/Fi on a rack in my neighborhood drug store.

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Scientology and Mormonism are two religions I just cannot even begin to comprehend. It confounds me that so many intelligent, talented people have been drawn into Scientology, and then there is the relentless niceness of Mormons. But when you read about the fundamentals of their faith and realize how new it all is...it just comes off to me like a Pyramid scheme.

Try reading 'A Course in Miracles', if you can.

@buzz13 You need to tell me why I should be reading this.

@seaspot_run Incomprehensible sort of New Age movement (religion) that makes no sense at all. 'Try reading' was said in jest. lol

@buzz13 If I have a particularly thorny layover, maybe I'll curl up with a copy and give it a try.

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I DON'T KNOW! Possibly because people who aren't attracted to talking snakes and burning bushes respond to the idea of ''science'' in determining behavior, using strange equipment to determine your physiological responses to problems/emotions, etc. Tell you what, though...here in So. California, thousands of people learned very quickly that THIS IS A CULT! A friend listened to a recruiter one afternoon and they literally HOUNDED her for weeks! I had to threaten to call police once, when they refused to leave her door! Possibly, people in other areas didn't learn of their strong-arm tactics soon enough.

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It is no different from those who now believe in "The Force," as delineated by the Star Wars franchise. It sounds good, it feels good and it answers questions that were previously unanswered. The problem is that most of those who seek Scientology or The Force or any one of the thousands of gods do so based on feelings and no matter how much logic we as atheists throw at them, it will not break that barrier.

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