They walk in with god on their shoulder and you are just wrong. The wilder the story the more they believe.

In a way I understand. Mark Twain understood emotion most often beats reason. Also, religion is just one area where people are intransigent about hearing other views. I have come into liberals who are just as closed minded about things that tend to stroke their good feelings. I have had debates with those who refuse facts, evidence or any kind of critical thinking. They are as loyal to their cause as their conservative counterparts.

However, I know people can and do change their views if approached in the right manner (I have witnessed and even been a part of numerous changes). I know for a fact, the messenger can often get through when the message cannot. Many of us on this site have gone through and are still open for changes in our philosophy. Often it takes one tipping point to turn a person in another direction. I also feel, strongly, that what is going on in this country today will be a major factor in how people, especially the youth, view religion and the importance of a strong, efficient government.

Debates are never to convince you opponent but the audience is up for grabs.

Just once, I want to hear a football player thank natural selection for his team's victory.

Save your breath. Don't have a stroke. Walkaway.

I agree that they don't care, they don't care what is true, their "belief" or want to believe over rides any proof or reality. I have even been told, "I don't care if it's not true, it's right!"

Amen.