You presuppose that they are not all cultural believers. Take a look at the map of religions. If you are born into a Presbyterian family then its 99% certain that if you are religious then thats the one it will be. The same as Baptist, Catholic, Mormon or Muslim. Yes some do convert but how many ex Lutherans do you know that have become Coptic or Greek orthodox? It is just as cultural as which sports team you support. I heard Richard Dawkins explain this in a TV Christmas lecture (I sh*t you not it was brilliant) to a whole load of kids. Religion is a mind virus because of its geographical clusters. Unlike science which although there may be differences of opinion amongst scientists does not adhere to cultural or geographical bios.

Not from me they don't.

I consider myself a cultural Jew. Not related to religion.

They both are The Worst! And I am very sorry, but I simply do not understand what you are trying to say.

Someday we'll be able to stand up in a crowd and say we're atheist or agnostic. It's moving in that direction now. It starts with a forum like this. Then this forum becomes the place where we can say we originated from. It will become noted as the popular starting point. Cool!