When Christians say things like "You have no morals, you think you can do anything", I reply "If an atheist murders someone the atheist expects to be held accountable for their actions. A Christian who murders someone expects to be 'Forgiven'". Whom would you feel safer with?
What do you think of my response?
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I like your response. It's straight to the point with no fluff. I really hate the term "forgive". It's just a omission of guilt if someone asks for it. If you've wronged someone and that person can get past it and move on without giving another thought about you or what you did. Awesome! If you've done something so awful to another person that it effects their life and you ask for forgiveness to make yourself feel better. You don't deserve shit but to have that guilt eat away at your soul.
Deedreaming
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Jan 11, 2018
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I have been wrestling with the term "forgive" recently. If someone rapes, tortures and kills my daughter and expresses no remorse, I can "forgive" them. What does that mean? I suddenly love them and am ok with it? No I'd probably be very angry and have a right to be. I'm not saying we should be human and not give people second chances, but "just forgive". It sounds like bull.
The "you have no morals" line is a dangerous one, as it's meant to make an individual look at you as a lesser being; or worse, not even a being.
If you ever ask someone who says this is what their "morals" are, they will dive into a diatribe of how morals "come from God". -Which is not something anyone can debate. You cannot reason with the religious.
I find the best route is to find examples of people outside of their religion that they might respect or have admiration for. Then ask them about those individual's "morals" based on their lives/good work. -or- the opposite. Find an individual who is of the same religion who has absolutely zero morals, and see if the person still sees them as having "the same" morals.
If you're lucky, they will begin to reconsider the word "moral" towards the concept they are trying to convey. If you're luckier, you'll get them to think about what morals are.
If you're successful, you have WAY more patience and tact than I.
MuzikDan
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Jan 11, 2018
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