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QUESTION Indiana Church Sends Message to Women: “Stop Sexual Harassment; Wear Clothes” – Friendly Atheist

The implication is that men are not responsible for harassment if women are dressed in a way that the man finds to be provocative.

It is the old theory of "blame the victim" and don't hold the perpetrator responsible for their own actions

snytiger6 9 Jan 30
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It really ticks me off that a woman should be blamed for unwanted advances/harassment because of the way she dresses.
Just making eye contact or a friendly smile can do that too. The reality is there are some (of not all- thank goodness) warped dudes out there.

ags2 Level 5 Jan 31, 2018

To be fair - there are some psycho women out there which makes it rough for those with legitimate complaints.

@ags2 I doubt there are too many psycho women. But it may just be the women I've known over 30, as opposed to the younger days when all the people around me were crazy. Also of the opinion that a woman walking naked through the streets should not be bothered (provided it's not in on of our weird Buffalo winters).

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Someone trolled that church.

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the reason for burqas etc in the Muslim world

Yeah but in The Gambia some women wear scanty, tight-fitting burkas adorned with sequins and other accessories. It's human nature but I don't agree with harrassment.

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Actually, that’s one I’ve long wondered about… Yesterday I’m reading an article about, you got it - sesual harassment. So there sits ‘the expert,’ in as low a top, skin tight black dress as would fit, across from ‘a man,’ full suit & tie, w/ padded shoulders I suspect.. I got to finish raising my daughters, and could not stop them leaving the house in as skin tight and revealing ‘school cloths’ as they could get away with…

Is this happening because of, or for the sake of ‘men?’ ..or is it women competing for the attention of men -- then freaking out when they get it..? It would have been a lot easier ‘battle’ for me to have a dress code resembling equivalentancy in exposure, leaning toward practical and modest … but what’s a dad know ~

Varn Level 8 Jan 30, 2018

Most cis, hetero women don't have a clue about the strength of a male libido.

Yet when I was teaching high school in Hermosillo, Mexico, in 2001, young girls, even toddler girls, typically wore clothing that only hookers would wear in the US.

Even though the girls' bosoms would be exposed every time they leaned over, and their skirts rode up to their undies, the boys never looked, or even commented. They were used to it, apparently.

I had the kids keep daily journals, to gain bonus points for class and I was amazed at the innocence of their stories. Instead of desperate sexual activity, so common in US high schools, the kids ran around together in friend/cousins groups, attended almost nightly fiesta parties at the houses of relatives (I attended plenty myself), and their idea a having a boyfriend, was going to the same parties!

@birdingnut I was working for our neighboring school district and feared being called to ‘come get your daughter or bring her some alternative clothes’... I knew the staff, and felt they’d not want to embarrass me. On the job, I’d escorted a student to our middle school office to find the secretary on the phone to the parent of a girl in tears … who stands up, turns, then asks if I ‘think this is too short’...? As a Dad, and a man ..yes … don’t remember how I broke it to her, but was sure glad it wasn’t my job to call home..

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Again, women are second class people in the church's eyes. What is even more shameful are the women who go along with it.

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Stop sexual harassment, teach males/females their mindset and behavior need to change, not their attire. If you think you can't go out without sexual harassing some one, then you need to walk with a buddy that can stop you. If you think you will sexually harass someone, blow a whistle and someone will come to help you not harass. Stop blaming the victims and change the behavior of the perpetrators.

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It is hard to believe how some religious people and churches condone sexual harassment by men.

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Stuck in their ancient way of thinking. Makes things much easier for jerks who can't control themselves ! " how could I possibly resist , poor horny me !? "

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I just rolled my eyes so hard, I've triggered a migraine.

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What else is new...women always get blamed for being raped...too short skirt, too much cleavage...hoochie mama shorts...blah blah blah... I am 57 soon to be 58 and still the same..not much has changed...

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That church isn't run by the youth of America I'll wager. heh heh

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