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What do you consider sexual harassment?
Do you think #MeToo has been a good/bad thing and why?

Crimson67 8 Feb 12
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Well, the sexual harassment thing is a power dynamic - all of these men could EASILY get laid if sex were the goal. The goal is to humiliate the (usually a) woman. And in the social realm, just plain old being a pig is still perfectly legal. And as for these people who whine they don't know what they are allowed to say and they "just can't even talk to women anymore," here is a nice rule of thumb for you: Would you say it to a woman if her husband were standing beside her?

Perfect litmus test. I'm gonna use that one.

Beautifully said. 🙂

I call my friends pretty all the time. My two best friends are married to each other and I call her pretty in front of him constantly. He doesn't care, and she appreciates it. I've been called a sexist pig by lots of feminists who I've told the same thing to. Who do you think is really the whiny baby here?

Not all women are married. And even with that said, not all married women would be inclined to cry any aspect of abuse when an attempt of social flirtation is conducted. I have had married and or committed women grab me and or make quite forward comments towards me of a flirtatious nature. Do I label them as pigs also? Cry humiliation? Whine? I think it's quite a legitimate concern today as to how to approach a female when attraction arises for the male. I've even received some rather ugly comments and looks in recent years for holding a door open for women. Am I now to discontinue this gesture of once a gentlemanly thing to perform in society because a degree of females have determined it is some sort of disrespect? Hell, maybe I should quit opening doors for my woman then? Quit walking her to her door of our vehicles in an effort to safely get her in the vehicle first? Or place her on the outside of the sidewalk where it's more dangerous for a pedestrian. All in the name of what I consider a managed perception taking over our society. Don't get me wrong. I understand the nature of this issue and it's importance. I also understand that what we are seeing in the media is vastly an issue out of the range of most people on here which engulfs a class of people that have lived this way for centuries. Where do we as the norms of society draw the lines to avoid a managed perception being perpetrated onto us by the media in an effort I would argue are to divide us over the entitled population making the news today? The women of decades ago, centuries even, long gone who wallowed in this atmosphere to the heights of stardom and wealth today bare no negative retribution to this issue, yet today it's laid solely on the male population. And so we are labeled by society in our means to find companionship towards a potential life partnership? Yes, some go to far. Mainly those in a position of power to some degree. While the common men take the brunt of its negativity. The diversity of this issue is widely being ignored and men again are taking the brunt of it. I'm so glad to be set in this social aspect of life for the rest of my life! For fucks sake, good luck to those of you who are not.

good point

Take the following situation: A far from attractive middle aged woman turns up for work with about a dozen dark blue lovebites on her neck. She made no attempt to cover them with a scarf. The comment was made to her "was your husband hungry last night?" Note no reference to the hickeys. Sexual harrassment was then claimed which was supported by her equally incompetent and unrealistic manager. The person accused of harrassment had previously brought to the managers attention the accusers probable unfitness for work. Four years later the evidence came forth that the woman was highly depressed, on a drug that caused such bruising but no one had seen fit to protect the public from her behavior and false accusation.
In the above situation if the husband had been standing there I'm sure that additionally pertinent questions of domestic violence evidenced by the bruising and failing sexual relations would have been asked.

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#metoo is a good thing. It normalises the voice of the victim, which allows others to feel comfortable speaking out or making complaints.

If more people were comfortable challenging inappropriate behaviour then it would not be allowed to escalate to the levels of the Weinstein debacle. Nip it in the bud, its better for the victims and it's actually better for the perpetrators as well- they won't have the opportunity to build up a huge history of offences.

As for what sexual harassment actually is, I think we all know it's determined by both behaviour, environment, and context. Anybody who says they don't know the difference between harassment and normal behaviour has problems.

Then... MANY people have problems by your definition. People who do know the difference between flirting and harassment are people with common sense. But as we know, common sense isn't actually all that common. A fourth variable beyond behaviour, environment, and context is the mental well being of the accuser. No one can ever predict when a whack job will sue you because you asked her out on a date, citing sexual harassment.

It's a fucking minefield out there... Glad I'm old and happily married.

@Hominid Ahh, so the accusers are lying for personal gain. I'm sure it happens, but that's going to be an outlier. It would be so much more convenient for men if they could just sexually harass at will, yeah? Like the good 'ol days. SMH

@Hominid the whack job scenario is a whack job, and not sexual harassment. And honestly, it isn't a mine field at all, unless you are somebody that doesn't know how to behave decently (or doesn't want to!).

@MollyBell "It would be so much more convenient for men if they could just sexually harass at will, yeah? Like the good 'ol days." - If you think that's what I'm defending, then you don't have a grasp on what I'm trying to say; almost like a straw man argument, or even ad hominem.

@Rufus_Maximus - The claim is sexual harassment from the accuser - pls read my post again. If you don't think it's a minefield, you haven't been reading the headlines.

The discussion was sexual harassment, not claims of sexual harassment. Strawman yersel'!@Hominid

@Hominid I'm glad I am am wrong about you, then. Lol especially @ ad hominem. ???? ????

@Rufus_Maximus

  1. "The discussion was sexual harassment, not claims of sexual harassment. Strawman yersel'!"

  2. "Anybody who says they don't know the difference between harassment and normal behaviour has problems."

According to you, there are people (with problems - see #2) who would claim sexual harassment, but shouldn't - the logical inference being it's an unfounded accusation, a claim. Ergo you brought up claims of sexual harassment, not me, so careful pointing fingers.

@Hominid I was speaking from the point of view of the perpetrator, not the accuser. In situations like this it is appropriate to separate them as the accuser must demonstrate that harassment has occurred in law, and so their lack of understanding is mediated. Not so for perpetrators, who's actions cause the maximum potential harm whether understood or not.

@Rufus_Maximus I understand now where you're coming from, although your OP didn't make it all that clear, particularly your first paragraph. Good discussion though.

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#metoo is what finally got nassar out of being a doctor. After he assaulted at least 256 girls. It would have been amazing even without that. Giving women the confidence to come forward and be heard is what we needed desperately. Side note in a women's military career, 68% will be sexually harassed. 28% raped. I was raped in the army and went to a hospital inpatient program just for sexual trauma in the military. It was always at capacity. There was a men's wing too. Idk the rates of male rape especially since most don't report it.

Nobody knows the rate but we do know that it happens. While it’s predominantly females who are assaulted it’s not exclusive and that’s important. An injustice against one is a wound to all. IMO we should use the segmented moment to address the universal outrage.

@Redcupcoffee ya I have regular counselling. I have PTSD from it it was a very long story but I keep getting better. Thank you.

@rainmanjr I agree. There is added stigma when a man is raped and it enrages me that they have to worry about someone questioning their sexuality when they had no choice in the matter

What was going on in the army you were in? I was in the TA medical corps of British army and I am glad to say was not aware of nor witnessed any serious sexual crimes. Lots of flirting, cock teasing, men chasing women but...? The navy had a tradition, it was unlucky to have women on board ships.

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The #MeToo movement has been a long time coming. As with any new and important change in our society, there are problems and push back. It was to be anticipated that there would be false allegations with several different motives. Personal/political, monetary gain, revenge, and on behalf of a group or organization. It doesn't negate the importance of the movement any more than it did for the Suffragette and Women's Lib movements.

Sexual harassment will have to be defined in time, as it stands now it is exaggerated, fragmented and the definition is too broad and confusing. People in positions of power and authority need a clear and concise definition as well as the general public.

Betty Level 8 Feb 12, 2018

I'd go with asking and letting no be a definitive marker. Anything after that can be considered harassment.

I think this is going to keep getting merkier unless and until we start teaching people as young as pre-teen about these things. The younger people are when they learn it the more set in such things will be and the clearer lines between right and wrong are. When we fail to teach these things to young people, those lucky enough to be respectfully treated growing up will be too shocked to report such things. Likewise to those growing up in situations without any respect given or received. They just don't seem to know it's wrong, or care, as that's all they have ever known.

I also think others need to take more seriously when kids get more handsy with each other and drop the whole 'kids will be kids' attitude. Those kids grow up to be adults who don't let go of those behaviors unless adults take it seriously and intervene.

@AmyLF

I agree. It will take a few generations before this becomes normal. When a pendulum is "pushed" it always takes at least a few generations before it finds its center.

@Betty I think the only trouble is that with this current climate here in the states at least, the push seems to be getting harder. I am honestly concerned that the swing might be longer than just a few. Perhaps this modern social media level it might help shorten the swing. I hope so. I hope it can become a way to find that center sooner through sharing stories and proofs.

@AmyLF

The sharing of stories and proofs may help but I doubt it. If you look at the civil right movement for the black community that pendulum still has not found its center and won't for a long time to come. The #MeToo movement may have similar problems, hopefully, it won't take as long.

@Betty I guess that all depends on what you would consider helpful. This stuff doesn't get fixed by keeping it quiet. When things do become public there is always one hell of a fight to make sure investigations are had and those keeping quiet out of fear can come out with real support. Backlash is unavoidable in change, but the change is necessary if we are to really get on a completely equal field here or even find any degree of respect by the end of it. We simply can't expose the real monsters without the back and forth.

@AmyLF

I'm in total agreement with you. 🙂

By the way... Do you have any thoughts on how this will affect the sex trade? I haven't heard anything, have you?

@Betty Honestly I don't but then I haven't really had an ear to that particular grapevine for some time now so I don't know. I would think once the backswing and fall out happens we will likely find that more people will go underground again, not be so vocal, perhaps buy more videos or games or both in that area.

@AmyLF

I think you may be right.

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I think it's been going on far too long, and it's about damned time people are getting called on it. The #MeToo movement has been a good thing, and I don't think it's going anywhere.
I think a really good rule of thumb for everyone is, "keep your hands to yourself", and "don't speak to anyone any differently than you would to your beloved grandmother."
People really need to learn how communicate clearly. Screw your "non-verbal cues". People aren't mind readers. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

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Sexual harassment has a broad a scale. I've had everything from an employer throwing quarters down my dress (it was a sundress) to a man rubbing up against me in a convenience store. Absolutely these were sexual harassment, but they are not on the same scale as sexual assault. But they need to be stopped regardless of scale. Until some men( the harassers are the exception, Not the rule!) stop objectifying women and getting away with it, until women are believed and taken seriously, not placated. I'm not sure what the answers are, but I'm asking men to step up. My employer never did it when men were around, but the man in the convenience did it with a store full of people, and he did it twice. We must take the stance that these are our mothers, sisters, daughters, and friends and stand up to the men who have gotten away with this for far too long!

A slap in the face or a knee in the balls does wonders. Or even just a loud "Stop rubbing me pervert!"

If I saw a dude treating a woman like that in a convenience store, I would step up and intervene.

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Overall I think it is a good thing, a long overdue pendulum shift. But like every social movement, it will spring some zealots who will take it too far in their indignation. I think a little mital flirting is a good thing, and would hate to see more fun taken out of life.

I believe you are correct. The pendulum is shifting and there are opportunists who have and will continue to take advantage of the opportunity until the pendulum finds its middle. Once and concise definition is established and becomes commonplace flirting will no longer be a minefield.

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#MeToo is great - for too long bullies and scumbags have been using their power (physical and psychological) to make people do things they don't want to do, and it has to stop. It seems to be mainly directed at women but there have been some cases of men being victims too.

I think real sexual harassment is hard to describe but we'd know it when we saw it - it depends on context. That said, the phrase "no means no" is a fairly good guide - it's fine to approach a girl and ask if she'd be interested to swap numbers, dance or go for a drink - but if she says "no thanks" then you cannot harass them into changing their minds. Nor can you grope people inappropriately in any context ... sexual contact has to be consensual.

If I have to touch a woman - to get her attention or just in a friendly, comforting way then I always use the back of my hand on the upper arm, so as to cause the least offence or intrusion. Also, to people I know better, I would routinely offer a gentle hug rather than a kiss because I think the latter can be construed the wrong way.

Also, I echo some of the remarks by other members that there have been cases (a small minority) where people have been falsely accused publicly and it has really destroyed their reputation. I understand that justice should be public but I worry that not enough protection or compensation is offered to the falsely accused.

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For the most part, good; it gives me a semblance of relief assuming my daughters may suffer fewer indeginties than my mother had… I also find it appalling, the extent of the perpetrators.. Some I’d admired. And, a bit of pride in knowing there’s nothing out there on me.

Didn’t alway have that pride, as I’d take a work break amid ‘the guys,’ bragging of their conquests ..and wondering why I found their exploits aggressive and abusive. But apparently, they ‘were getting the girls,’ and I wasn’t… All part of a fuckedup society in which I’ve never felt comfortable; perhaps, a good thing ~

Varn Level 8 Feb 12, 2018
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The MeToo movement was long overdue. We raise male children with far more leniency than girls, (boys will be boys), which teaches them that any impulse of theirs is acceptable. We must stop this and change it to "Boys Will Be Civilized." As has been mentioned below, males have been assuming they have a right to do anything they like to women since the first caveman grabbed a female by the hair. Why do you suppose it used to be illegal for a woman to wear pants (I.s. "dress like a man" )? Because skirts guaranteed quick access to her body for sex. Rubbing against someone, touching them, gesturing in front of a woman's breasts are strategies of intimidation and power, as are unwanted texts of penis pics. The kind of man who needs to do such things probably needs a therapist more than a jail sentence but it's long past time that our culture stopped this dominance crap which is sadly encouraged by the Abrahamic religious books. Far, far past time we discarded those paleolithic beliefs.

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Damage been done to women since first caveman grabbed one by the hair and pulled her to the other side of the cave. Those in power that were taken down needed to be taken down... I know plenty others been spared. I can say that I had never struct a woman in my whole life and that include never hitting one of my sisters as a child. Being falsely accused is bad but the Guilty need to be accused. I remember when things were not going right with my now ex wife she did provoked me with the knowledge that if I lay my hand on her... I will be moved out of the house... period... is how the Navy do business. I just laughed at her and told her "I got 3 children with you and I want to look at them in the eye everyday of my life knowing they know I never laid a finger on you. You are not taking that away from me. It is not what I do to you... Is what I want to be to them." Sexual harassment today could be anything that was given a pass a century ago... but now is now... we need to behave and respect one another. Every human male or female deserves dignity and maybe because of that belief I don't go to strip clubs. I remember someone that couldn't watch porn because every woman in porn reminded him of one of his 6 or 8 daughters. The issue need to be addressed in all levels. Been overdue.

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Ooo... that's a tricky and touchy one. Harassment is one of those things that can be hard to define because one person's harassment is someone else's flirtation. Add that some guys can not take rejection very well and it can get messy. Telling them you are not interested seems to be reason to lay it on thicker or invite a string of blame and abuse that is just unfair and uncalled for. If they are not interested then find someone else who might be. It isn't pleasant to be turned down but a no is a no. Find another.

On the other hand there are quite a number of attention seekers out there. I think we have all run across people who exaggerate or flat out lie about how they are treated for the sympathy and attention. Where the line is drawn between actual victim and attention seeker can be difficult to find because unless you have eye witnesses backing up the person making the claim, or some other sort of proof, video, etc... it's hard to know for sure.

AmyLF Level 7 Feb 12, 2018
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I have mixed opinions. Overall I think it is a very important movement and a significant societal advancement for Feminism.

However, I agree with Matt Damon's statement for which he was roundly criticized. There is a difference of level and not all men are automatically guilty just because they are accused. My son was falsely accused but was slowly vindicated by the legal process. It was a scary time for our family and it cost me $3000 in legal fees.

@SACatWalker Exactly

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It's overdue.
One wake up moment for me was discussing Mad Men with my parents. The way they treat women on the show (particularly the earlier seasons) astounded me and I thought it had to be overplayed. But my folks said no. That is accurate. Women (in the workplace especially) were almost playthings for the men.
I find #metoo one bright spot in our culture today. BLM is another. Blowback against the cheeto perhaps.

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I have an intelligent, beautiful wife and daughter. I support the #Metoo movement. Women must have an open platform to air their grievances with any ramification. Getting into a relationship is a difficult proposition. I do have some concerns this could complete the process. This is unfortunate but necessary.

There have so many major issues that have been recently publicized. I am appalled that our country is still living in the age when women need to be kept in their place.

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I think it's a long overdue movement. We're finally holding men (and women!!) accountable for their actions. Our young children need to be taught how to act right. The "boy will be boys" argument needed to be squashed 5 decades ago... Boys need to act right, period, full stop.

  1. Sexual harassment has a different definition for every individual as the receiver.
  2. That's not a bad thing...

Until you get to know someone really well and you're "close friends" with them, you should not touch them beyond a handshake, make personal comments to them about them or anyone else, tell dirty or obscene jokes, or otherwise be "too friendly" with someone. It's just common decency to be polite and friendly, especially with someone of the opposite sex.

I am far, far from a prude... My own preferences on conduct are anything but modest or hands-off, but unless I have known someone for years as a personal friend, I conduct myself professionally and respectfully at all times.

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Settling for anything less than enthusiastic consent is starting down that slope. Sexualizing anyone who does not wish to be is a kind of violation. I think we need to condition ourselves to be attracted to a woman’s mutual attraction, and not just her looks or her body.

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I just don't believe that men don't know ' the rules' anymore. We've always known. They're just winging because they can't get away with it anymore.
I like that ' would you say it in front of her husband' guide line
Mine is 'how would I feel if someone said that to my daughter'

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There is a degree of legitimacy to all of the current claims. I mean, people are not being fired or resigning all over for nothing. I'm getting into a similar thing at my work just today in fact. I work with a man who reportedly told his girlfriend that I am saying "lewd things" about her at work. I don't know this woman and her relative wants to kick my ass. I do not say "lewd things" and anyone that knows me knows this. Also, "lewd talk" at my work will get you fired regardless of who it is about. Today I will confront this man in front of the boss in order to stop it all. He will have to deny the claim saying somebody is mistaken, and this way it all will be nipped in the bud.

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What's unfortunate is how even just assumption of guilt can be so ruinous to a person's life. My ex-sister in law worked at a law firm in downtown Ottawa, and relayed a story of a lawsuit that came from a man complimenting a woman on her pretty blouse. No exageration. His career was ruined; wife divorced him. He was vindicated a year later when this same woman pulled the same stunt on another co worker.

It's going to get to the point where everyone will need to wear body cams like the police. I'm behind the #metoo movement 110%, but also see the horrendous loose ends that could very well be its own demise because of indiscriminate accusations.

I agree with your ultimate concern ..and maybe I’m not that into clothes, but I’ve never ‘complimented a woman on her blouse’.. because I think most realise - it’s not the blouse we find alluring. Perhaps a bit much to lose a marriage and career over, though more likely, the tip of an iceberg..

@Varn - so lesson here is: you know what you'd mean if you actually did compliment a woman on her blouse, but you can't paint every man with the same brush you paint yourself with. I've known lots of effeminate straight married men who go on about fashion and hair with other women, and no one takes it as a flirt, let alone an unwanted sexual advance.

Would you compliment your male coworker on his pretty blouse?

@Lysistrata - substitute "pretty blouse" for "cool shirt", and the answer is yes.

@Hominid Then just say, "cool shirt."

@Lysistrata I would be perfectly okay with another person, male or female, telling me my blouse is pretty. Pretty is a real word in our language. It has meaning. We use it for a million different descriptions and I think it is perfectly okay to use it to describe a blouse.

@hominid -- I think, but I'm not sure, you mean the guy was vindicated (not vilified) when the woman pulled the same stunt again, yeah?

@BlueWave - good catch, thanks.

@Lysistrata Most women I know would immediately correct me on the improper use of garment nomenclature.

It's to be expected that in any new and important movement for change that there will be opportunists that take advantage for their own reasons. There is the good, the bad, and the ugly to get through before that pendulum finds its center and that may take several generations.

@BlueWave There are lots of real words that aren't appropriate for the workplace. The word "pretty" implies a delicate attractiveness. That's the actual definition of the word. It's also its common use. Most guys would not appreciate being called pretty by another man because it implies both an inappropriate attraction on the part of the one saying it and a fragility to the one they intend to compliment.

@WishYouWereHere What are the compliments you are using? Do you call your male friend pretty?

@Lysistrata Oops! I'm sorry -- I wasn't trying to define the word 'pretty' for you. 🙂

What I meant to convey was that I would not at all be offended if a male co-worker complimented my blouse, my flannel shirt, my t-shirt, my haircut, my shoes or my glasses. I just don't get offended by what I perceive as an innocuous compliment -- whether it is made by a man or woman.

To me there is a world of difference between, "What a great outfit!" and "Damn, girl -- you should wear those jeans every day!" To the first I would reply "Oh, cool -- thanks!" To the second I would reply "Are you fucking kidding me?" The next time, I'd be in the office of the human resources.

I compliment my male bosses often -- when they are dressed up for court, have a particularly eye-catching tie, a cool casual jacket -- or even funky socks. Is that sexual harassment? I have zero attraction to any of them and would feel stifled to behave like a robot if I couldn't treat them like a human being. 😟

@BlueWave Great, cool, that's all good. Pretty doesn't mean any of those things.

@Lysistrata Pretty, adorable, cute, etc. Choose any word you find which is typically applied only to women. If it is an innocuous compliment, I — and millions of other women — would not be offended. We don’t all have to agree on what we consider harassment or just a compliment, right?

@BlueWave I wouldn't be offended. Depending on the person who said it, I would feel insulted and uncomfortable. I'm trying to earn a living in a competitive field. I don't need a coworker talking to or about me like I'm an eight-year-old girl.

@Lysistrata Yeah, I hear you. And, you are as entitled to your boundaries for your life as anybody.

For me, I wouldn't feel insulted, uncomfortable, or like they were treating me like a child.

@Lysistrata It appears, you get it… So, there are women, and men, who would allow unwarranted personal comments, even appreciate them. Guess that does create a fine line.. and explains the reason it’s so often, if egregiously crossed or ignored ... while taken quite seriously by others…

@Varn Thanks, Varn. We've been conditioned not to get it. And you're right-- it doesn't help when other women stand up and announce that they're perfectly fine with what so many of us struggle against.

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I would be more impressed if it were more about actual violence and harassment and not simply boorish behavior.

Well put. It seems to me these day people are so hyper sensitive they complain about the smallest thing. If you're a person who is "traumatized" because someone touched your ass 20 years ago, guess what? There's something wrong with you. They're called coping skills for a reason.

Only trouble is that boorish behavior can be harassing, especially when it's repeated and lengthy. Having some jerk pushing all his attention on you all night when clearly out with friends and you were clear you didn't like it and didn't want it can be terrifying. Boorish behavior seems to mostly come from insensitive louts who don't seem to realize that.

@AmyLF - but then it's pure harassment, not just being boorish. That's the important distinction @nipoleon makes. No different than a religious whack job preaching at you ALL night after you've repeatedly asked them to stop. Same thing... it's harassment.

@witchymom I believe I made it clear that I'm not very impressed.

@AmyLF You are absolutely right. There is no excuse for bad behavior and there are plenty of women who are just as " handsy " as any man. We find them just as insufferable as a woman does that from a man.
I'm not saying the Me Too movement is not a noble cause but it's heading to a bad place. Politicizing it as a political weapon is not where anyone wants to go.

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The ME TOO movement is necessary. Women have been suffering all these things and now it's gonna be different. Of course we have to stay on course and don't go to the extreme. Definitely there's gonna be a misuse of it and that's wrong but the reason why the movement started was and it's real.

BTW I didn't answer the first question. Sexual harassment in my opinion is any sexual comment, behavior that might invade the intimacy of a person physically or mentally.

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Sexualizing behavior that disregards both consent AND agency.

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I consider #metoo as essential for human emancipation. In that I mean first of all the women that show that men can't approach them in a sexual way without their consent. That, even if there is an exchange of flirting signals, a "no" or "stop" should be understood as "no" or "stop", and not "she says stop but she means yes" because she is giggling and laughing too. It doesn't mean that flirting is no longer allowed, but, because of the fact that it is two-sided, it should be practiced in mutual respect. Emancipation is not just for women, it's also for men. Both have to emancipate to the new level that they both agree on.

Gert Level 7 Feb 12, 2018
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I don't like to be touched by people I don't know. If someone tried to hug me I would ask them not to; if they brushed it off and did it anyway I would consider it a violation of my space. Would I file harassment charges..... probably not unless they continue.

I personally feel each persons' threshold is different (to an extent). I do believe that no one has the right to grab a person's privates, nor do they have the right to kiss them without permission. If someone says no, IT MEANS NO. There is no compromise, no discussing, IT MEANS NO. I also feel that dirty talking should be consensual. I can't tell you how many men (and some women) feel it's okay to tell me in explicit detail what they want to do with me. If I tell you I don't want to hear it, that means to stop talking about it.

The #MeToo movement isn't a good or bad thing; it's a necessary thing. Sexual harassment has gone on for so long that some people see it as normal, which it isn't. We needed to show that we're not putting up with the status quo anymore and that our feelings matter.

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