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Where do you think our morals come from? what brings about improvements in them?

Mcflewster 7 Feb 20

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Improvement in morality comes from a constant feedback loop of evaluating benefits and harms. This inherently requires that we be grounded in reality rather than dogma or other preconceptions.

To the religious, by contrast, morality is immutable, it never improves. Only compliance with the moral code is capable of improvement. And only an invisible being is capable of judging compliance. And he's not talking.

Yeah, it's nuts.

excellent answer, and from an Eragon fan?


Social and natural consequences resulting from actions.


Mine come from within and haven't changed and I haven't broken them. there is a line drawn in the sand in my mind that would make me untrue to myself if I stepped over them even with my flaws.


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Common sense...


Well, I don't think man is by nature social, rather nature forced man to be social to avoid death. It is therefore not something that man by nature is inclined to, rather man is compelled by nature to be social. Nature provides this end only negatively. Man conquers nature because it compels him to do so and the result is freedom and responsibility.
Loosely based on Aristotle, also pointed at by Hobbs & Nietzsche.

cava Level 7 Feb 20, 2018

Can anyone do a better job of explaining how we came to be communal animals via survival and evolution, or should I take a whack at it?

Explaining via evolutionary psychology . Darwin Day lecture at Humanists(UK)

@Mcflewster thank you

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