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Are there more means of knowledge?

Do you think there is knowledge to be gained outside of rationalism? What could it be? How can you know anything without objective verification and empirical measurement?

Phyphrus 5 Mar 8

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The only means of knowing something or getting as close to the truth that is possible at a particular time is SCIENCE made pure and simple. Intuition is a form of science where you are not fully in the driving seat e.g have lost many connections to a conclusion e.g where you are unable to recall how you came to a conclusion.


Intuition has taught me things that my rational mind couldn't.


"I am certain of nothing but of the holiness of the heart's affections and the truth of the imagination. What the imagination seizes as beauty must be truth - whether it existed before or not - for I have the same idea of all our passions as of love: they are all, in their sublime, creative of essential beauty ... O for a life of sensations rather than thoughts."
John Keats

cava Level 7 Mar 9, 2018

In my experience, there are only two ways to gain knowledge. One is direct experience and the other is through the experience of others.

SamL Level 7 Mar 9, 2018

Objective verification and empirical measurement can also be limiting. We fool ourselves when we forget that there is a vast unknown. What we validate today will be upset tomorrow and new findings will take its place.


Well from what I remember there is carnal knowledge. There is experience, and the primitive musle memeory.


I believe in creativity, and I feel it has value. However, it is not knowledge nor truth.

Things like personal tastes and preferences come into play as well. I happen to know I like pizza and I don't give a rat's ass if that's "verified" if anyone but me could do that.

You've just entered the twilight zone of the pseudo-intellectuals. It happens a lot around here. Just observe the phenomenon and don't get too close. They can become vicious...I mean verbose.

@DangerDave looooool


I think you mean are there more modes of learning? The means of gaining knowledge?

If that's the case, here's a link for you to get started. As an educator, don't get me started!

I will say there are great variations in learning styles, each individual's validation of results and, most importantly, their personal interpretation of results.

People are not machines, nor are their brains. To try to reduce them to such or every human experience into a verifiable formula is an exercise in futility...and frivolity.



Maybe Rush has the answer?

The band or Limbaugh?

@DangerDave Exactly, And see where o.p. is from.


There is always room for knowledge. Doesn't matter what your beliefs are, or your education. Always keep an open mind.




I have not been able to figure out how that would work either.

Nor has a religious person ever been able to explain to me how they distinguish between their beliefs and their imagination.

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