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I have zero faith in my government at present . Tory Theresa May and Cronies, and wondered if any one else had thoughts about all this Russian 'news'. I can't take it in as they were poisoned with chemicals very close ot our own centre of Porton Down

jacpod 8 Mar 19
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I thought they had identified the poison used and that these two possibilities exists:
1: It was definitely Russia.
OR
2: Russia allowed it to be used.

Regardless of whichever, it points to Russia.

The poison used was the Novichock nerve agent. And Russia tightly controls its safeguarding.
[abc.net.au]

A quote from Vil Mirzayanov, a Russian chemist who helped develop the chemical weapon, from the article: "...Novichok was invented and studied and experimented and many tonnes were produced only in Russia. Nobody knew in this world..."

There's a video interview of Mirzayanov in that link above.

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Being close to Porton Down is coincidental, the geological location is purely due to Sergei Skripal living there, if he lived in Edinburgh, it would have been no more difficult for the perpetrators, whoever they maybe.

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May and Johnson and others of the rich British ruling class scum are so brimming with confidence that they have no hesitation in hurling out accusations without the slightest bit of evidence to back them up. And, of course, the anti Russian propagandists of the British press, radio and TV stations just love this stuff because they know that the dumb Brits (the majority) will lap it up. (I am British, so I know from personal experience that most are, politically, pretty thick - the result of several decades of a constant barrage of nonsense entertainment by so called TV news channels and the soft porn comics masquerading as newspapers) Got a bit of antiSocialist title tattle (if not, just make it up) and make it into a 'sound bite' to suit the short attention span of most viewers and readers. Find a photo of a beautiful scantily clad young woman with a flawless figure and add that, or a picture of a cute kitten, or, better still, one of the monarchy) Those who wish to change this situation do their best but, presently, it's a pretty thankless task.

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You want to trade countries? Please.

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The poisoning seem pretty sloppy for the Russian government almost look more like it was pay back for something that he did to another Russian agent; from that agent or a friend of one.

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It was a chemical invented by the Russians. Putin was head of the KGB. Anti Putin folks keep turning up dead. What don't you get?

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I find it hard to believe that your government would assassinate one of its own agents and even less likely that it would risk the lives of anyone who may happen onto the scene.

The method used is a Russian favorite. When you hear hoofbeats, it's more likely to be horses than zebras.

JimG Level 8 Mar 19, 2018
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You're lucky you don'thave a piece of shit with his hand on the nuclear button.

Nobody in the world is lucky as long as our village idiot does.

@JimG That is an insult to village idiots everywhere. 🙂

But look at what we Brits have got - an old grey-haired tart with her hand on his dick.

@Sticks48 it's all good. There are no idiots here to be offended by that, but I have offended large numbers of idiots by insulting 45 already.

@JimG 🙂

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You have in Office currently one of the most Pathological Liars who got his start on a TV Show "The Appentice" which all the views most of whom were beguiled and tuned into have become full faced with this fact that he is not only a liar, but a fraud, conspirator and a person who has sold you the 'shit sandwich' the GOP has been endorsing for the past decade. You are being controlled by a Congress who placates to the beconing call of the NRA, Koch Bros, Wall Street and the Lobbyist whom they send full time to Washington to get what they demand and pay up front for and get. Now lets go the Medical and Drug Conglamorates who also reign in cohesion with the Insurance Companies who rape you incessently for overcharges and procedures, medications and overdoses beyond prescription. Its all coming out of your taxes and you haven't a clue. The Military Budget is over 50% of your tax dollars to wage wars in Foreign Countries for Aircraft and Bombs and Bullets Made in the USA and for which our returning Veterans are left on the streets, homeless and without medical care because they were discharged under false pretenses and not because of PTSD.
I may have stepped out of my lines here, but I am a Veteran to whom these things are very cognizant and I have witnessed first hand. Congress has not God to which I hope will find me in line with my above statements.

The woman you're addressing is English. Trump is the world's problem, but not her fault.

He's our piece of shit-lol.

@sassygirl3869 pretty much. 😟

@JimG thanks for pointing that out

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There all two faced self centered fucks and always have been but they do seem really bad now. Ihate trump and may. is it a sign of the times?

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I have had zero faith for several of our past presidents. When I looked through the 20/20 glasses, I lost faith in the rest of them.

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It was probably the Russians. From their prespective he was a traitor since he was originaly a Russian spy who switched sides by becoming a double agent and started spying on the Russians for us, and his daughter would be seen as 'collatoral damage'.

Poisioning via chemicals and radioisotopes is their MO, and they have done it several times - Georgi Markov, Alexander Litvinenko, Viktor Yushchenko etc.

As for the chemicals being similar to those created by Porton Down, most nations that posses chemical and biological weapons use the same ones, cyanide is cyanaide, antharax is anthrax, ricin is ricin etc.

Nomad Level 6 Mar 19, 2018
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It's a shame you feel like that. But hypothetically it was likely done by Britain or Russia and Britain's not going to say it was them. But also if it was England they could easily of covered it up, quite a few people thought that the victims were just unwell, which offered a natural cover up.
There's very little we can do about it is there? We just have to watch how those in power handle the situation. Europe is asking for the relevant evidence, so I guess it will go from there.

I understand what you're saying though; it's difficult to understand how they can say with certainty that a chemical that's been out since the '80's had a specific origin. I guess the experts in the field know what they're on about, they usually do 😉

Dr David Kelly was an expert employed by the British government to investigate WMDs allegedly held by Iraq. His investigations strongly suggested !raq had no chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. Then he was found dead in his car at a lonely place in the countryside.

That's terrible, I didn't know that. I guess it's not always safe to be an expert 😟

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