This is exactly why I simply stopped "listening" to the arguments for or against the existence of any god. It became a waste of time for me simply because there's just NO EVIDENCE for either side. Of the two, the atheist position is the most logical and reflective of reality itself. One doesn't worry about the existence of a unicorn or bigfoot if no evidence for the actual existence these creatures can be had; and god(s) are the same type of made-up creature. I personally don't worry about it anymore, nor do I waste my time arguing with believers about it. People are going to believe what they want, especially a god, against evidence no matter what anyone tells them because they have an infantile view of the world and themselves; and this belief of the "sky daddy" is like a cherished child's blanket. That's a hard thing to fight, especially in an adult that stopped believing in Santa, but can't stop believing in jeebuz. Again, it's infantile and I don't have time for it.

Exactly. While science starts with observations, then hypothesis, and working its way towards a conclusion, religion has the conclusion in mind and gathers the evidence that supports it. Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.

It's called the "Argument From Hiddenness" or from "Non-Belief", and is one of the strongest arguments against personal gods. Such arguments come at the issue from a variety of angles, and theists have a variety of counter arguments. Of course none of the justifications are convincing to me, but if you're interested in exploring it further, there are dozens of youtube videos on the topic, both pro and con.

Such Muslims are no different to Christians who use the same arguments: they demonstrate cognitive failure. More specifically, they do not engage in thinking which is critical, analytical, rational and dispassionate.

It is kind of like saying, "I really love you with all of my heart, you just have to look beyond all the cruel actions I happen to undertake!" That is the Geeeezzzzuuuusssss shit for you.

Flying Spaghetti Monster 2:02:
Religion is the oldest money-making scam, probably even older than prostitution . . . . prostitution is seedy, but it isn't a scam like religion, it's about as honest as it gets.

Yeah, those kinds of debates always felt pointless because they don't even start off agreeing on which text should be the common source of truth before interpreting reality or discussing policy on common grounds. If we can't even agree on the source of truth then the debate will always end with a version of "well your book of truth is full of crap".

Quite right, if an omnipotent god wanted me to believe in him, then I would. That's what omnipotent means. There'd be no need for evidence or argument, God could just will me to believe. And I don't. So clearly if God exists in that sense, he happy for me not to believe, and so am I. Don't see why anybody else should be upset with what I believe or don't believe if even God's evidently cool with it.

Correct. Believers arguments for a god to exist start with a need for a god to exist. I've always thought that if a god existed he would cure all those poor kids at St. Jude who have cancer. Then I realized that it is all the sins of the fathers doing this. Besides, the founder of St. Jude was a Catholic. That just about does it for Baptists and Evangelicals.

As an atheist I believe in zero gods, yes I require evidence to believe one is real. Even if someone proved a god was real, doesn't mean I would worship it.

It boils down to two choices

God's is an Evil Fucking Wanker, who enjoys making people suffer and loves to point and laugh,
Or
There is no god and religious people are victims of long term theological scam.

God loves ya. But he will burn you in hell. lol

It’s a good point. If gods existed, they wouldn’t have left anything up to interpretation. A big reveal followed by the list of crap they wanted us to do. Cut and dry.

Instead we get human insinuating divine.

You just say. "No, god prefers atheists/agnostic, and sends them to heaven while religious people go to hell. Because atheist/agnostics show good critical judgment not insulting him by thinking he will value blind faith, don't tell him what to do, and don't set up fake gods in his place. Now prove me wrong !"