A trolley problem involving imaginary beings means you're never damned if you do.

I can't believe that all the ones who claim they pray really are praying. I had trouble with this in my church daze too. The book of Acts has people being healed because a cloth (aprons as it said in JKV) were prayed over and then sent to the sick person. This is all by the laying on of hands. In modern times the televangelist and others have mail sacks full of prayer requests and they put them all in a pile and pray over them in a similar manner. This gets so outrageous that when others anywhere claim to send "thoughts and prayers" it all translates to me as just wishful thinking. That's right. My mind says nobody is praying for you and it is all wishful thinking. Hypocrites all in my book.

The universe does not seem to care about belief. If you must, you are still free to believe, but live with no validation except via your own vanity or delusion. We are free to bring values into the world and live them. Choose well.

Proof = Believing factual evidence.

Faith = Believing what you've been told regardless of the factual evidence.

Good luck with that...

Since religion is not inherently evidence-based I'm curious as to how one would go about demonstrating conclusively the non-existence of something it requires faith to believe in. In other words, what additional power beyond what you possess today would you need? It sounds to me like your friend may have already considered that she could be wrong and would prefer to remain ignorant--she doesn't want her spell to be lifted.

I think the best course of action is to plant an idea, and let a person's curiosity run with it...or not. They have the burden of finding out themselves.....but then again didn't a snake do that once regarding a bit of fruit?

Christian beliefs and practices infringe on the rights of others. When their churches don't pay taxes you have to pay more to cover their lack of paying taxes. They want to stop your right to an abortion...your right to contraception ....and your right to watch pornography.

it maybe depends upon how you are defining "God?"
plus you have posited conditions that cannot possibly arise, so what is the point, if i may ask

Thanks to everyone who responded to this question. I did get what I think are some good insights from your comments.

Depends on your goal. Done correctly, it could rid the world of fruitless pursuits, charlatans and layers of deceit. But for some this is the barrier between contentment and a nihilistic nightmare. I find it difficult to prove a null hypothesis. I wonder how that would come to pass.

After rereading that a couple times and looking through the comments I would have to agree with best without gods just be there if she needs you. Of course fernapple had a good point too.

This is something along the line I made a discussion group about. Please feel free to post and discuss there.

Her style or your style of god may not exist. You might be able to show that the non-existent flying spaghetti monster sky God really is non-existant.

"Illogical atheists guide for ending Christianity "

Generally people who do not think to critically believe what they want to believe. But I see that as a lack of education or self discipline. People do not want to know that they will never again see their loved ones who have passed away, they do not want to know that when they die, that is it, and they do not want to know that the great dictator in the sky does not exist. The problem with that though is these are the same kinds of people who believe that their elected officials are acting in their interests instead of their own. I would bet that the world would be much more peaceful if we did not have all these wishful thinking people, they are naive, mentally undisciplined, and . . . . dangerous.