Actually it did work. The election was stolen. However, all that means is that the Dems should consider the other side cheating in whatever plans they put together.

@redbai Dems cry about the election being "stolen" but totally fail to address the perfidious way they handled their own primaries! Collusion between HRC and DNC is just as substantive as TRUMP/RUSSIA. Both just as dirty in my eyes. DNC is still trying to force their version of "Liberal" which fails to adequately address economic and ecological concerns. Economic questions are often reframed into civil rights issues, because they know anyone who tries to get things back on topic will risk looking like a bigot (watch for this pattern). Civil rights legislation is great, but it alone is not the best way to influence economic standards. Economic legislation is what is needed for that... crazy, right? I am glad they at least give lip service to being concerned about ecology, but I find the efforts here to be mm... I don't want to be unappreciative, what's a nice way to say it... dilute? We need aggressive ecological policy right now... the time for "measured approaches" has already been wasted away.

Sorry, I refuse to believe that Trump stealing the election and obviously kissing Putin's a$$ while leading this country is equivalent to whatever happened on the Democratic side with Clinton. We, as a country, only have to deal with the repercussions of the former; the latter is a problem for the Dems, a party of which I have never been a part. As a point, I've also never been a republican.

I don't think she'd make a great president, but she would be better than Trump. However, Andy Dick would be better than Trump. Trump lowered the bar so much that you'd have to start digging (or perhaps mining) to find it.

@snytiger6 I can not disagree. I'm hoping we'll realize that electing smarter than us is a good thing. I don't know why the Republicans resent that. Seemingly.

@phil21 They demonize intellectualism, education and knowledge in general. I think it is because if peopel were educated enough to kow what was beign done, they would not likely o put up with it. So republican politicians set out to make the uneducated feel like they already know enough and to be outraged at those who know more than they do.

I don't think either is qualified, but I disagree with the assertion that if it were between Trump and Oprah, that Trump would "chew her up".

Oprah is generally liked if not loved. Hillary was liked at best and hated by a lot of people. If Trump attacked Oprah in the sme way, there would be a public backlash. His normal antics would backfire.

Personally, I hope the democrats fidn a much better candidate and we never have to find out who is right.

@snytiger6. I've already heard what she has done in the past and trumps people will dig it all up and use it against her. She's popular right now but that old crap kept hidden will get her. Trumps got ways to win and get what he wants. He'll dig deep to get her. See how he clobbered all those people during the debates. She's got baggage and he's evil. He's the president and she's just popular. She's got a lot to loose and she will if she debates with him.

If Schwarzenegger was allowed to run and win he'd screw things up just like his incompetence did when he was governor of California.

@redbai How would anyone be able to tell if his policies would not work, the CA government went against him the entire time.

That's not how I remember it. I remember him giving Exton a sweetheart deal saving them billions in fines for nothing in return and robbing the school funding to pay for lower car registration fees. I can't remember a single thing he did that would have been objectively beneficial to the state that was blocked ked by the state congress. He is a mediocre actor and was terrible at governing.

A lot of baggage is right! Repubs would nail her to a cross ( I know I said cross,but it's the essence of the idea).