What reason was that?

@FrayedBear whatever reason they came up with

@FrayedBear dude it's Sarcasm ...

Thoughts & Prayers is always sarcasm around these parts, right....

@Charlene IMO it's not sarcasm it's a waste of time & effort.

Same for anyone voting for the present day Republicans.

@jlynn37 waddya mean? They've just put one in in Virginia!

[johnmenadue.com]

@jlynn37 Or Socialists pretending to be Democrats.

@Alienbeing or Rethugs pretending to support Democracy..

@Charlene Yes, both major parties have their undesirables, which is why I dislike both.

@Alienbeing have we found common ground? I'm forever saying that the only good politician is one dead for at least 50 years.

@FrayedBear Since you do not live in the United States there is no way you can know our politics. What you read and comment on does not equate to reality.

@Alienbeing I don't have to live there, just observe American duplicity being practiced around the world together with that of other country's politicians to form my conclusion.
So far you have not been able to refute my reality.

@FrayedBear You clearly do not understand. You CAN'T just observe. All our media is slanted one way or another and even more important are the nuances that cannot be related that affect undercurrents and therefore behavior.

Your opinion of American "duplicity" has shown you don't have a clue and you don't seem to appreciate National Interest; not even your own National Interest.

Your last sentence is pure bulshit. You have been proven clueless numerous times. Last, I have told you, but you can't grasp that your opinion is worthless as you have NO say in our internal or external behavior.

P.S. when you say "my reality" you prove you think your observation is reality. There is only one reality, and you can't see it because you'd have to be here.

@Alienbeing Actually National Interest is not a real thing. It is the interest of the party in power, for them to stay in power and make more money. Nothing to do with National Interest.

@Jolanta Thank you Jolanta. Sadly it is a waste of time trying to discuss anything with the alien. He just ignores you & tries to drag you down to his level of irrationality. He bleats about national security & interest when in reality no one has attacked America since Pearl Harbour. However as America is guilty of attacking many countries, including Australia, both militarily & economically the national American psychosis has become projection.
Thanks for trying.

@Jolanta You just made up your own definition and is it wrong. You defined political interest, not National Interest.

Words have meaning, try using them correctly.

@FrayedBear What is a waste of time is for non citizens who time after time show they don't understand a subject to consistantly profess knowledge of the subject.

In addition you make it up as you go along. For example: show me where I ever defended the USA attacking any country that did not first attack us. You won't be able to do that. In fact you will find I posted (many times) that we shoudl not have ever been in Viet Nam, or Iraq.

Are you full of crap, or just ignorant, or the victim of hallucination?

@Alienbeing Cambodia attacked the USA? Afghanistan attacked the USA? Venezuela attacked the USA? Russia attacked the USA? Chile attacked the USA? Bangladesh attacked the USA? Australia attacked the USA? Panama, Grenada, Haiti . . . The following invasion list prepared by American academic Zoltan Grossman appears fairly conclusive that as usual alien your constipation is resulting in shit coming from your mouth:
"(1) American Indian nations (1776 onwards, American Indian Genocide; 1803, Louisiana Purchase; 1844, Indians banned from east of the Mississippi; 1861 onwards, California genocide; 1890, Lakota Indians massacre), (2) Mexico (1836-1846; 1913; 1914-1918; 1923), (3) Nicaragua (1856-1857; 1894; 1896; 1898; 1899; 1907; 1910; 1912-1933; 1981-1990), (4) American forces deployed against Americans (1861-1865, Civil War; 1892; 1894; 1898; 1899-1901; 1901; 1914; 1915; 1920-1921; 1932; 1943; 1967; 1968; 1970; 1973; 1992; 2001), (5), Argentina (1890), (6), Chile (1891; 1973), (7) Haiti (1891; 1914-1934; 1994; 2004-2005), (8) Hawaii (1893-), (9) China (1895-1895; 1898-1900; 1911-1941; 1922-1927; 1927-1934; 1948-1949; 1951-1953; 1958), (10) Korea (1894-1896; 1904-1905; 1951-1953), (11) Panama (1895; 1901-1914; 1908; 1912; 1918-1920; 1925; 1958; 1964; 1989-), (12) Philippines (1898-1910; 1948-1954; 1989; 2002-), (13) Cuba (1898-1902; 1906-1909; 1912; 1917-1933; 1961; 1962), (14) Puerto Rico (1898-; 1950; ); (15) Guam (189, (16) Samoa (1899-), (17) Honduras (1903; 1907; 1911; 1912; 1919; 1924-1925; 1983-1989), (18) Dominican Republic (1903-1904; 1914; 1916-1924; 1965-1966), (19) Germany (1917-1918; 1941-1945; 1948; 1961), (20) Russia (1918-1922), (21) Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999), (22) Guatemala (1920; 1954; 1966-1967), (23) Turkey (1922), (24) El Salvador (1932; 1981-1992), (25) Italy (1941-1945); (26) Morocco (1941-1945), (27) France (1941-1945), (28) Algeria (1941-1945), (29) Tunisia (1941-1945), (30) Libya (1941-1945; 1981; 1986; 1989; 2011), (31) Egypt (1941-1945; 1956; 1967; 1973; 2013), (32) India (1941-1945), (33) Burma (1941-1945), (34) Micronesia (1941-1945), (35) Papua New Guinea (1941-1945), (36) Vanuatu (1941-1945), (37) Austria (1941-1945), (38) Hungary (1941-1945), (39) Japan (1941-1945), (40) Iran (1946; 1953; 1980; 1984; 1987-1988; ), (41) Uruguay (1947), (42) Greece (1947-1949), (43) Vietnam (1954; 1960-1975), (44) Lebanon (1958; 1982-1984), (45) Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011), (46) Laos (1962-), (47) Indonesia (1965), (48) Cambodia (1969-1975; 1975), (49) Oman (1970), (50) Laos (1971-1973), (51) Angola (1976-1992), (52) Grenada (1983-1984), (53) Bolivia (1986; ), (54) Virgin Islands (1989), (55) Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003), (56) Saudi Arabia (1990-1991), (57) Kuwait (1991), (58) Somalia (1992-1994; 2006), (59) Bosnia (1993-), (60) Zaire (Congo) (1996-1997), (61) Albania (1997), (62) Sudan (1998), (63) Afghanistan (1998; 2001-), (64) Yemen (2000; 2002-), (65) Macedonia (2001), (66) Colombia (2002-), (67) Pakistan (2005-), (68) Syria (2008; 2011-), (69) Uganda (2011), (70) Mali (2013), (71) Niger (2013).

The human cost of these US interventions has been horrendous. A major component of war- or hegemony-related deaths is represented by avoidable deaths from violently-imposed deprivation. Since 1950 the UN has provided detailed demographic data that have permitted calculation of such avoidable deaths, year by year, for every country in the world. 1950-2005 avoidable deaths total 1.3 billion for the whole world, 1.2 billion for the non-European world and 0.6 billion for the Muslim world [2], the latter carnage being 100 times greater than the WW2 Jewish Holocaust (5-6 million Jews killed,
America has invaded 70 countries since its 4th of July Independence Day in 1776. American imperialism has made a major contribution to the 1.3 billion global avoidable deaths in the period 1950-2005. The Neocon American and Zionist Imperialist One Percenters can be seen as the New Nazis. The World, including ordinary Americans (1 million of whom die preventably each year) [10], must shake off the shackles of endless American One Percenter warmongering, imperialism and mendacity. The World must make the Fourth of July Independence from America Day. Tell everyone you can. "[countercurrents.org]

@FrayedBear You love to change the subject. The subject was YOU inferring I said something, nothing else.

As far as your list, as I said, your opinion simply does not count. What we say is or is not in our National Interest is not subject to your approval.

@Alienbeing Not my list but that from some american academic. You raised the issue of "you don't seem to appreciate National Interest" which implies that you have been indoctrinated into believing that American behaviour is justified & not duplicitous.

@FrayedBear I used the term "Your list" to refer to your typing. Was that hard to understand?

Repeating myself, your opinion is not solicited, nor is it worth anything. We act with our interrest in mind, and any such actions are not subject to your approval.

@Alienbeing arrogant narcissist. When you kill each other the remaining 95% of the world will turn its back to you & say that your action is not subject to our approval just keep it to yourself. Unfortunately like many disgruntled suicides you will want to take as many as you can with you.

@FrayedBear Nothing arrogant at all, you merely continue to think your opinion matters. It does not, not even a tiny bit. We will continue to look after our National Interest without even considering your ignorance.

@Alienbeing Yes, your so called National Interests are; your oil, gas or anything else that we want.

@Jolanta Your most recent post clearly shows that at best you have a surface knowledge of the U.S. You prove my point very well, that point being that you don't know what you are talking about.