I have read it and his "The World Until Yesterday" as well. There are tangible reasons for these things happening. Too many like to point fingers but we are all complicit. To me, it is about limited resources and the increasing demand on them (basically, overpopulation).

I wonder what “collapse” means for the 21st century. We are so globally intertwined. Economic bubble bursts, smaller wars, larger multi-nation wars, changing alliances... I’m seeing changes (some very bad/destructive) but not collapse in the next decades. We’ll see!!

There are many cases of civilizations crashing. It is not unique and will happen again.

@JackPedigo Of course! I think about it every day.

In the middens of the island groups archeologist found smaller bones (fish, pig and such) at the bottom or earlier times. Later they were replaced with larger bones like dolphins and at the top human bones that had clearly teeth marks. I read a report about a period where the Nile river did not flood and there was widespread famine. It was shown that people ate their newborns during this time. We are animals and do as animals do in order to survive. We must never forget that!!

The original report was written up in several science publications. This shortened version recently appeared in the link I sent. It is straight forward and makes lots of sense. No superstition and supernaturalism involved for the basic facts.

@JackPedigo ooops. sorry, I jumped to the video, assumed link was same, am reading it now.For years i was told they were long gone and never seen, that noone had ever heard the language spoken, Years later I found out that was all wrong. Our education here left a lot to be desired, I think facts were optional.

There is an idea called the boiling frog syndrome. A frog in tepid water will sit there until the heat is turned up and it is boiled to death. When put into boiling water the frog jumps. We are slowly becoming the frog in an ever heating body of water. Things are not getting better environmentally speaking ans some of the most important things we need to be doing we are doing just the opposite.

@JackPedigo Let’s do what we can to become hope collectively more aware and less passive than the gradually cooked frog.

For me it starts with the individual. Each one of us must become aware and take personal measures regardless of what our neighbors are doing. There is overwhelming scientific evidence of what is happening but, in too many countries scientists take a back seat to cornucopian economists.

Anthropologists studying the island noted the stones we two different types. They then found out each type represented a religious cult much like our Catholic and Protestant churches. Opposing groups would topple the other's stones until all were down.