for the rest of the world that's not a bad idea. If we got rid of 1,5 deaths would allow for some growth

Didn't work in China or Singapore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_planning_in_Singapore) .

YES.... educated women wait longer to start a family and have fewer kids. That's the only reasonable way to get it under control. And smarter women have lots of other societal advantages, too.

Yes

I could tell you about one individual that should be as famous as Einstein but history has decided to keep him in the dark because he did voice his opinion and came up with specific actions. His name Schockley. What did he do? Invented the building block of everything we enjoy today thanks to reliable and cheap electronics. Anyway, interesting story....

no kids here either

I also have none.

I think they're already giving free guns to mental patients, religious extremists, and white 'patriots" aren't they? Seems so, at least.

....... Not trying to troll, ok? I think its a valid question. If exploding population is self correcting then why is the world now trying to keep up with the needs of 8 or 9 billion human beings (I've lost count, we are just too many)

@IamNobody just havent reached that self correction point yet. I am glad I am old

@IamNobody This was figured out by scientists a few years ago. Humans will cease to overpopulate when we reach between 9-10 billion. At that point pandemic disease and starvation will thin out humans just like a herd of deer.

I don't think its the same thing. This thread started with the proposition that population self regulates to keep it under control. I am saying no, that's not the case because population is way past the point of being under control. The point you're making at 9 to 10 billion is not control, that's self destruction after exceeding the critical mass. Both things are not the same

Unfortunately, many anti-vaxxers are actually vaccinated. It's their kids who would suffer

@joeymf86,
WE DID vaccinate. And then watched our family members have seizures, paralysis, and occasionally die. I developed Ataxia within hours of a DTaP. Just because it didn't hurt YOUR family members doesn't say anything about the rest of us!

@TaraMarshall Ok. Why are you getting pissy? I was just responding to BillF’s comment about a plague wiping out anti-vaxxers. I was saying anti-vaxxer’s children would die from the plague, not anti-vaxxers like BillF was implying.

@joeymf86 , you've obviously never worked with a child who was vaccine-injured, let alone had to deal with it yourself. When you have, come back and realize why you sound like such a jerk.

@TaraMarshall Actually I have worked with children where the parents have said the child's illness was caused by a vaccine. Do vaccines cause illnesses in some children? Maybe, it could be a genetic factor that makes some children more susceptible than others. However, I'd rather have a sick child than a dead child caused by a disease that could have been prevented with a vaccine.

Neither of us are going to change our mind or each other's mind today or tomorrow. For some reason you are directing your anger at me instead of OP. That's fine. I just don't understand what made me "sound like a jerk." Was it me saying many anti-vaxxers are vaccinated? Why is that offensive? Or was it that if a disease like measles or polio became prevalent, that many anti-vaxxers' children would be more susceptible to getting and dying from that disease than a child who was vaccinated for it?

@joeymf86, diseased is better than dead? Right, so permanently disabled, with paralysis and an inability to function above the level of a one year old or less, having seizures all day, every day, and in constant pain FOR YEARS is better than having a disease such as measles that usually causes a rash for a week?!

You are well and truly indoctrinated. I've had measles, twice, with the vaccine as my only exposure. And guess what? My body still isn't producing any antibodies against measles. I had my titres run. I have no antibodies against any disease I've ever been vaccinated against with the exception of Pertussis... which I caught the year after the DTaP that left me in a wheelchair struggling with relearning how to walk for months.

And it's after that all my autoimmunity started to hit. Mind you, 1/4 of Autistic children have a Primary Immunodeficiency Disorder and 80% have markers for autoimmunity. So, take a population with known immune dysfunction and inject all of us with substances designed to activate the immune system.

Gee, I wonder why so many parents associate the onset of symptoms with vaccination...

This movie was inaccurate only in that it did not take nearly as long as the writers had predicted to come to fruition!

That’s exactly the point. Rationality makes intelligent people not want to have kids.
We’ve created a society where the smart don’t want to procreate.
It’s the natural order. The dumb will inherent the earth. Fine by me. I’ll be dead. I can’t watch anymore anyway.

@Emma think how things would change if people just had to wear wax lips