Please elaborate.

All governmens -- even democratic ones, will inevitably include some hierarchical structures. That is a simple inevitability not to be disparaged per se. What must be fought against is excessive and unnecessary hierarchies with too much power. . @Bakunin

@wordywalt there's no government like no government.

@Bakunin So, you are an anarchist? That is a recipe for chaos.

@wordywalt I am. But I disagree.

My point is that both government and religion are systems of control which need to be analyzed and criticized; challenged and questioned constantly. Ultimately they are both self serving. Taxes are like tithes. Wars and crusades are indistinguishable. And in most cases the vertical hierarchies so beloved to both institutions (bishop=major perhaps or colonel?) could be flattened out and run horizontally. To me there is nothing sacred about authority, be it that of god or man. You are correct when you call me an anarchist. I have been an anarchist for 36 years and an atheist for 50. Once I realized it was all just a way of controlling the masses, including me, I decided that no gods or masters were necessary to me. I resist the tyranny of the state the exact same way I resist the tyranny of the church.

I judge hierarchies individually to the point of my own disadvantage. Such is my hatred of authoritarian structures.

@Bakunin Hate is useless.

@indirect76 context is important. I feel societal structures are largely ineffectual and cause more harm than good. This isn't about individuals. It's about the very real oppression caused by hierarchies. My use of the word hatred is not directed at people, rather the illegitimate structures used to govern people.

@Bakunin I can appreciate that. Perhaps “hate is useless to me” would be better.