I have been on this site since it's early stages.
I left and came back.
There was a mass exodus from this site.
Why do you think so many members have left this site, including admin?
What was the mission of the creators of this site?
Is there anything that we can do collectively to improve this site?
I just emailed the site that holds the certificate status. I'm curious to what it would take to take over the site. Whether myself or a group of us depending on cost. Which would also mean we would need some tech help. I would hope we have people in the community who might be interested in that area?
Despite a seemingly vast majority who oppose socialism within this community, it just might take the entire village to pull this off if we want to keep it going. It might be a good experience for those with the most negative views of socialism to engage in an actual true sense of it, over the false rhetoric it receives which has been brought in from the outside.
Since I've found my way to this site, it has always bewildered me to how so many have avoided the vast potential of false indoctrination of religion, yet here within so many people refuse to decline the false indoctrinated atmosphere of western politics and information manipulation. Which should lead one towards having taken the time to learn the 3 basic types of socialism to discover how they've been manipulated in that regard also.
Same. The site was great at the start, really good discussions going on. It all changed with Trump's run for POTUS and as the site is dominated by Americans, became very polarised. Trump equals Bad. Vaccines equal good and no arguments. The world is not that simple and I for one expected agnostic/ atheist types to not get hooked up in group think. How wrong I was.
It became a bit of an echo chamber. And in a sign of the times, every time people chose to confront any particular issue, offense was automatically taken.
Having been here since 2017, it feels like the site has been through a few different incarnations since then. I've come and gone a few times because work and relationships took precedence, and I imagine that's why other people have left as well. I still miss them, and others I see on other sites. Some were here more to find a relationship than friendships, and they left when they found one. I know a few were finding their online life here too all-consuming, so they left for real life.
I believe @admin created this site as a social experiment, or at least that's what he said in the article he wrote. He created a number of them using the same programming, so updates are easy to do across the board, and I think that's why he's allowed us to continue. He's clearly not spending any time on fixes, and doesn't seem to want to "rule" us (other than giving us the power to block when desired), so as long as he's kind enough to do basic updates to keep us live, and pays for our web hosting and domain name costs, I'll stay until it crumbles around us, and be glad of the opportunity he gave us.
I'm not quite sure, @Unity, what you mean about collectively improving the site? Do you mean increasing membership? Becoming self-sustaining? Trying to acquire the site from Admin?
I know that one exodus happened just after it was discovered that the originator also created SlugDotCom, which turned at least as far to the Right as this site did to the Left. Many Agnosticators assumed he was secretly some authoritarian extremist and they wanted nothing to do with anything he created.
I think they were mistaken, though it appears his heart was at least a little more sympathetic to somewhat right-of-center politics.
That said, I think he was equally disappointed in how one-sided Slug also became, while he was trying all along to get the various factions to talk to each other instead of making echo chambers for themselves.
I don’t know if he has given up altogether, or is possibly working on a new idea to get the polar camps to engage each other civilly. I hope it is the latter.
I remember when you had left, and you were among one of the first members on here that welcomed me to the site when I was a new member, some five years ago when on your old account. At one point I too had paused my account, as some of the member drama on here after awhile got to be too much.
I think those who had permanently left the site including Admin did so due to the back and forthing political-based arguments and the dehumanizing remarks that often go along with such arguing. On at least one occasion Admin himself had mentioned to me how he felt the sites he created (this one and IDW/SLUG) had fallen short of intended goals, to bring others together for a common purpose, but instead created a hostile environment where members verbally attack other members for certain personal viewpoints. Don't think Admin was wrong either for feeling that way.
At this point, with Admin pretty much already gone, going forward not sure what we could do to improve things enough in order to keep the site running, and by June 2nd the site could go down if the security certificate is allowed to expire like what had happened with IDW.Community. knowing how some of the political chats on here get confrontational at times, haven't bothered as much recently with posts on that topic, and have focused a bit more on humorous and philosophy posts. Should be interesting to see what happens on June 2nd.