I appreciate your passion, but not sure how you can be so black and white. I mean, we are all conservative in that we want to conserve whatever is working well for us to make our lives better, and we are all liberal in that we are not afraid to make changes if we believe that they will bring advantages to us all.

@Ryo1 Equivocation is intellectually dishonest

I’m confused by the way the term “liberal” is now considered no longer to mean being measured and moderate, and following a middle way of being neither right or left wing…not given to the extremes in a political sense of the right (Conservative) or the left (Socialist) and more likely to make more reasoned, consensual, and pragmatic decisions. However, in the USA Liberal has become a pejorative term for raging lefties and as far as Americans are concerned that means there are no Socialists because the only thing left of liberals are outright Commies!

@Marionville I keep hearing, from my American acquaintances, that American society is so deeply divided politically that there is no middle way. One made a remark that in the UK, politicians from opposing parties still manage to sit on the same panel and debate on various matters in a civil manner. (I think they were refering to Question Time.) Apprently, in the US, they may agree to go on zoom debates but refuse to be in the same room physically. Thye are not likely to be able to put differences aside and get important things done that concerns everybody in the country, like the snowdrop campaign success in the UK.
BTW, the definition of liberalism is different between the UK and the US.

@Ryo1 Well that was the point I was making…the USA has changed the word liberal’s meaning…distorting it into something unrecognisable from its true meaning,

@Marionville Most social media are dominated by Americans - naturally; the U.S.A. ranks No. 3 in the list of countries by population. They have their own definitions of terms and when millions of them come on social media and talk about whatever they like on the basis of their definitions, we become affected by their definitions - if we are not careful.

@Ryo1 I’ll never surrender what I know is the correct definition of a word just because the vast number of American undereducated social media users have chosen to redefine it.

@Marionville Unfortunately, they are all over the world, many Brits included. I have met many adorable Americans.

@Ryo1 I adore many Americans too…but they tend to generally fall into the more informed class of Americans and understand the true meaning of words like liberal!

Nice chatting with you, ma'am. See you around.

Blocking for a short while isn't a bad idea. It's not easy to stay open-minded. I mean if you come on already with, say, a left vs right mindset or an atheist vs. theist mindset, you are not likely to listen to opposite views respectfully even if they are reasonable.

I read your comment carefully, and it's kinda ironic that when I replace 'conservatives' with "liberals", your comment still makes sense.

@Ryo1 a false equivalence, in my view.

@Ryo1 No, no it doesn't, and if you genuinely think it does you are either self deluded or an idiot.

There is no "in the middle" between truth an lies.
Something is either true and can be shown to be so by evidence, or is at best a mistake, at worst deliberate deceit.
This is where the world has gone to metaphorical hell, trying to to see both sides or an argument so as not to offend the monsters and liars.

You do not try to reason with a shark when it is trying to eat your children, drive it away and if it insists on coming back you kill the bastard.

What kind of restart?

@David1955 great question. i don't know, but surely this status quo can't go on indefinitely. change is inevitable, things happen faster these days, all that stuff.

Well, everybody is entitled to their opinions. It's a shame that some are very quick to resort to derogatory, insulting comments. If they say that's their kind of fun, it's up to them. Childish, though.

@Ryo1 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion is a very left wing thing to say and has some merit
However the right wing seem to think having their own opinion means they are entitled to their own FACTS, and that is simple bullshit.

@LenHazell53 Sorry, mate. I don't like treating people in the manner of rounding them up and labelling them.

@Ryo1
What you like or do not like is irrelevant, people proudly label themselves by their actions, speech and intent.
They don't need to be rounded up, they naturally come together and for as you said in you original post "Echo Chambers"

@LenHazell53 Yeah, I actually agree. Tribalism is part of human nature. That's why those who advocate inclusion, diversity, equality, etc., are hypocrites. They don't have a clue how difficult, if not impossible, to exercise these things in real terms. They don't realise how prfound these matters are.

@Ryo1
" inclusion, diversity, equality," is an unnecessary over complication of a maxim that has served well for centuries
"equality fraternity liberty"

No bigger group of pearl-clutching pussies on this site than the "Conservative Atheists" group that will block anyone for saying a single word that isn't part of their circle jerk over Trump to protect their safe space.

@ChestRockfield I must be doing something right then as I don't see any of that therefore must have been blocked. Probably because I show no favour on who I pull the piss out of. I don't think Trump is the devil as I don't see Biden as a Messiah. i don't see Russia as the devil and NATO as the Messiah either. Or vici verca. It's called being pragmatic, each issue on it's merits, rather than be ideological driven where you stay the course regardless.

@puff Point taken.

Guilty
Have to disagree that not much by left wing enthusiasts is posted here. Why the poster sees it as an echo chamber. There is lots, especially childish memes.

@puff I totally ignore memes as it’s lazy posting in my opinion, and in the main they’re aimed at an American audience anyway and I have no horse in that particular race.

@Marionville You miss out, a lot of memes are quite good from both sides. But admittedly, most you just want to face palm so perhaps not missing out on much.
Keep being good

So you say many blocked you. Do you know why?

@Ryo1 some people just disagree with some things I say some don't care for confrontation and some because they see me as an ass.

@Tejas did you just admit to possibly giving them good reason ?

@Switchcraft if words on a screen hurt your feelings idc. I'm adult enough to look past things that I don't care for.