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I am totally unprovoked & unbiased in my response to the news that American politicians & the White House are squealing that recent defense by Hamas of Palestine against Israeli invaders & occupiers is unprovoked. What do these imbeciles expect the Palestinians to do after 50+ years of inhumane treatment by the occupying Israelis???

"Skillful manipulators make frequent use of a cognitive bias known as the illusory truth effect, a glitch in the way human minds tend to operate which makes it hard for us to differentiate between the experience of hearing a well-evidenced fact and the experience of hearing something that they’ve heard repeated multiple times."

Caitlin Johnstone October 8, 2023

"We’re seeing the western political/media class bleating the word “unprovoked” in unison again, this time in reference to the massive multi-pronged operation launched by Hamas against Israel on Saturday morning which reportedly killed hundreds of Israelis."
"“The United States unequivocally condemns the unprovoked attacks by Hamas terrorists against Israeli civilians,” reads a statement from the White House."

[caitlinjohnstone.com.au]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 no wonder the Australian collective colloquial name for Americans is "septic tanks" which all know are used to keep shit in.

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The name of religion is an excuse used by all religions, but especially by Jews and Muslims, who both declare themselves to be the one true religion of the one true god and thus have a claim on the so called Holy Land.
When political ideology is insufficient to motivate your people in to unquestioning obedience, religion and the "commands" of so called gods are always a reliable go to, in order to stir up hatred, prejudice and historical precedents that have no place in the world today.
Between 720 BCE and 1948 AD or CE there was no state of Israel, had any group of people anywhere else in the world ever demanded the return of a long gone state, it would never have been granted and would have been though an idiotic idea. However in light of the holocaust and the rise in political Zionism, with out consulting any of the people who had lived there for over 2000 years, Israel reappeared simply because an alliance of western nations said that it did, and because a group of Oligarchs bankrolled it.
In the year since 1948, the state of Israel has by right of conquest grown to twice the size it originally was when re-established and it comes as a surprise to the western world that the displaced people and their decedents get a bit pissed off about this? That they form in to resistance movements as any people would and fight back against what they see as a gross injustice?
And that both sides invoke the ineffable word and promises of god for their motivation?

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Look at the real truth. There is no land there to give to Palestine. Israel has it all and it was this way from the beginning of their nation.

In 1948

@LenHazell53 thanks Len but sadly you are attempting to correct the thinking of a man indoctrinated since birth in the righteousness of the decision imposed on others by his country.
I suspect that it it would not matter where Israel was created the state would be misbehaving.
The Australian FNP should be glad that they didn't end up with them in W.Australia! I'm always reminded of the old joke made against the Irish of how they refused Saudi Arabia when offered it by God as a place to live because you cannot eat oil. Instead they took Ireland that grew potatoes. I recall reading that oil is now processed into some foodstuffs.

@LenHazell53 Reading history Google and Wikipedia, there never was a "jewish" nation. They were the outcasts of several mid eastern societies that formed their own "tribes". By all accounts these were assassins, mercenaries and people that did not fit in with their respective societies.. The European jews originate in central Germanic Europe. They were never a Jewish tribe , Their leader, hundreds of years ago, opted to convert his people to Judeaism to quell dissent and give his people a common purpose.
This information is freely available on the internet, I am just pointing out that things are not what they appear to be on the surface and history has little to do with today's realities.
In history and war, truth is always the first enemy/victim

@vocaloldfart
There was a supposed and self declared nation of Israel ( you are correct, there never was a Jewish nation until 1948), based on the myths and legends of the supposed Israelite patriarchs in the land of Canaan built up by the Maccabees brothers after the invasion of the region by Antiochus in the second century BC.
The decedents of Abraham had supposedly been given this land by god according to myth, and had been reclaimed by the non existent Moses, who if he ever existed at all was an Egyptian, adopted prince named with the honorary title Im Ho Sess (he who is my son).
old Israel itself, having been wiped out in 720 BCE if it can be presumed to have ever been, rather than just an alliance of 12 affiliated tribes all claiming Abraham among there progenitors.
However these 12 loosely allied tribes were occupying the regions of Galilee, Judea and to some extent Samaria right up until the time of the Roman invasion, by which time they had almost completely been wiped out by a mix of nature and fatal rivalry, combined with emigration. (Some remnants of the Tribe of Ephraim still exist in regions of the African continent)
So that other than the tribe of Judah and the tribe of Benjamin remaining in the ancestral territory there was no house of Israel. After the siege of Masada, and its consequent self extermination of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin only a few remnants of the Tribe of Judah remained in Judea, so few in fact that when the Ottoman empire conquered the region the Muslims did not think them a threat, and treated them and the now flourishing Christians as "The peoples of the Book".
Those who fled previously mainly settled in Syria, Egypt and Turkey and began assimilating in to the local cultures.
A few however began converting the locals to their own ways, notably the Kharzas of southern Turkey, who so zealously began embracing the new religion of Judaism (as opposed to Israelism, or the house of Israel) that they set out to spread it all over the known world and it is these Kharzas descended Jews who are the main ancestors of the modern day Jews and Israelis, with the so called stereotypical Jewish traits, that have so much in common with their one time neighbours the equally prolific and traveling Celts.

@LenHazell53 That pretty much says all I had wanted to say. My posts intention was to create enough curiosity get people to research the subject matter themselves.

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