How about my grandmothers daffodils up & blooming almost a month earlier than they did 15-ish years ago?
Along with pretty much everything else!
In fact the climate zone planting maps have recently been revised.
I doubt dogwoods and daffodils listen to any nonsense.

Well it's happening all around you. You mean to tell us that you don't know about the retreat of glaciers all over the world? Or of invasion of tropical disease vectors into temperate zones? Or of record-breaking heat waves, floods, and forest fires? Or of the water levels in the great rivers of the world falling so low as to become un-navigable for the first time in recorded history? Or of migration patterns and habitation ranges of animals changing radically? Or of farmers having to change long established timing of sowing and reaping? Or of the disappearing sea ice in the Arctic Ocean? Or of the Keeling curve, which records the steady rise in atmospheric CO2 caused by burning fossil fuels, and the science (the 200 years of science) predicting that such a rise in greenhouse gases would raise temperatures globally? Where have you been? Do you live under a large, flat rock?

@Flyingsaucesir

You mean the temperature isn’t 100% the same any more? It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter? Some days are warmer and colder? Some areas have drought and some flood?
Just like the past few million years????

Please……

@Esprit_de_Corp Fine. You are free to go on living under your rock.

@AnneWimsey
Fall and spring temps change. Been doing it since I was a kid at least. I've seen snow in June and 80's on Christmas day.
I've also seen the global warming name change to Climate change when the warming narrative got debunked. Now it's just "Changing" because no one can argue that it's changing.

When the same politicians telling us that we have to pay more taxes to keep the ocean levels from rising sell their million dollar beach mansions in Martha's Vinyard and move to the mountain tops; then I may begin to consider it. Until then, anyone that believes that crap is an irrational idiot yelling uneducated nonsense.

Kind of like thinking that a bunch of millionaires and billionaires are going to hire 88,000 new IRS agents to go after millionaires and billionaires. Pure freaken ignorance.

@CourtJester Hahaha CJ, you crack me up! The science on global warming has never been "debunked." In fact, it has grown and solidified steadily for up to 200 years, if you count the first awareness that Earth's atmosphere could act like a blanket around the planet, slowing the escape of heat into space.

The term "climate change" was introduced by scientists because it better encompasses the full range of climate variations seen over the whole Earth. While the AVERAGE temperature at the planet's surface IS steadily increasing, changing wind and sea currents may result in local average temperature decreasing (at least for a time). I have attached a link to a good article on the various terms that are in use, and it gives a good example of how local temperature can go down while the global average goes up.

Rising sea levels poses a very real long-term threat to millions of people. We are already seeing higher storm surges due to a combination of higher sea level and more violent winds, inundating homes and other infrastructure. Sea level rose about one foot over the last 100 years; we expect another 2 to 3 feet of rise by the end of this century. But sea level rise is NOT the greatest danger we face from climate change. Heat waves kill more people (and livestock, and food crops) than do floods, fires, or winds. You can look at sea level rise as like a flashing warning light, or a canary in a coal mine: a harbinger of much worse things to come.

The thing is, we have a rapidly closing window of opportunity to stop warming the planet before feedback loops kick in and bring on an unstoppable upward spiral in temperature (and all the nasty effects that go with heating). If we carry on with business as usual, we are consigning future generations to life (and death) on an inhospitable planet. That would represent a moral failure of epic proportions.

[dictionary.com]

@Flyingsaucesir

How many times over the past 30 years were the ice caps expected to melt and kill us all??? They change the date every few years and it hasn’t happened.
Use your common sense rather than just listening to talking thing heads.

@Flyingsaucesir

How many of the people telling you that you have to pay more taxes to change the weather live in million-dollar mansions on the beach? If sea levels were going to rise and kill us all, don't you think those in the "Know" would find a better place to live while they convinced us of pending doom?
I'll assume you've also never been to China, South America, India or Africa as well. If you had moved out of your mother's basement and explored the world a bit, you'd realize that the US and Europe are already the cleanest nations on earth. If China made a 1% improvement, it would do more that the US or Europe making a 10% improvement from our current level.

Do better.

@CourtJester
No one that has been to countries outside of the US and Europe can logically believe that anything we do will play much of a roll in the environmental compared to what others could do.
Get them to our level then tell us how we can improve from there.

@Esprit_de_Corp, @CourtJester For the entire 20th century, the USA was the world's greatest emitter of greenhouse gases. Around the turn of the 21st century, China passed us. They will have to go green just like the rest of us. Right now they have more electric cars than we do, but they also have more coal-fired power plants. As time goes on, mother nature is going to provide us all more and more incentive to change. Stay tuned.

You seem obsessed with rich people's beach houses. Some of them have already lost their homes (in San Diego, California, more to cliff erosion than storm surge). Norfolk, Virginia is seeing streets flooded regularly now, as is Palm Beach, Florida. High tides are coming up through their storm drains on sunny days. Many more homes are threatened, but sea level is rising at a rate of about 0.35 millimeters per year, so their inundation is not necessarily imminent. That's ⅓ of a millimeter per year, 1 millimeter in three years, 1 centimeter in in 30 years. Very fast by historical standards, but on a human time scale, kinda slow. At this rate, people don't need to move out right away. The question is, will that rate hold? The fact is, it is slowly accelerating, and could really speed up if a big glacier like Thwaits were to lose its footing and start sliding into the sea. And it looks like that is what is happening. Thwaits is grounded below sea level. There's a ridge below sea level that hold the glacier back, keeps it from sliding. But as warmer sea water is now melting the sea ice, that ridge loses its ability to hold back the glacier. If it goes, sea levels will jump up quick. But nobody knows for sure when this will happen. People might as well stay in their beach homes, for now.

@Flyingsaucesir

The climate will always change. The earth has never been "perfect" for two days in a row.
Al Gore's home has the highest electric bill than any private residence in the entire state of Tennessee. If the other guys on the beach aren't concerned about global warming while sitting on their deck, I'm never going to be too concerned when they tell me I should be.
Millionaires from all over the world fly in their privet jets to one part of the world every year just to talk to us about climate change. Why not save the planet with a zoom call??? What kind of idiot see's that and thinks it's legit?

@CourtJester Air travel has the biggest carbon footprint per passenger mile. It take a lot of energy to keep a jet in the air. Zoom would be a much better option. But again, you're putting way too much importance on sea level. It's the heat that's the real killer.

@Flyingsaucesir
Hahahahaha

@Esprit_de_Corp I hope you're still laughing in 2050. I will laugh with you.

They are conditioned to believe it is alright to believe what you want to believe no matter what the facts are, or what the evidence says.

@snytiger6 Exactly. Faith is valued over fact-based reason.