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It’s Not The ‘Israel-Hamas War’, It’s The Israel-Gaza Massacre
Calling it the Israel-Hamas war creates the false impression that this is a war that is directed exclusively at Hamas when it’s really an ethnic purge that’s directed at all Palestinians in Gaza.

Caitlin Johnstone
October 15, 2023
6 minutes
gaza, israel, Narrative Matrix, palestine
Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix
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Stop calling it the “Israel-Hamas war”. It’s the Israel-Gaza massacre. Calling it the Israel-Hamas war creates the false impression that this is a war that is directed exclusively at Hamas when it’s really an ethnic purge that’s directed at all Palestinians in Gaza.

The child body count alone makes it clear that this isn’t a war against Hamas; I saw an anonymous account point out on Twitter that the number of children killed in this onslaught after one week already exceeds the total number of children killed after a year and a half of fighting in Ukraine, per the United Nations.

Laying complete siege to a civilian population and bombing anything that stands would be an extraordinary abomination in any war. And this is not a war, it’s an enclosed shooting range with military explosives and human targets.

Americans should probably worry about the rapid legitimization of this idea that civilians who have a government that kills people are all legitimate targets.

According to the logic of collective punishment we’re seeing circulated with regard to Gazans and Hamas, all American civilians deserve to die horribly because they permit themselves to be ruled by a regime which is orders of magnitude more violent and destructive than Hamas.

Hamas is responsible for Hamas’ decisions, Israel is responsible for Israel’s decisions. Hamas is responsible for the Hamas attack, Israel is responsible for provoking that attack via apartheid abuses and for bombing civilians in retaliation for it. It’s not actually complicated.

Israel has been struggling with a rapidly worsening PR crisis ever since Palestinians started getting internet access and smartphones with video cameras and exposing Israeli apartheid abuses. So if you’re wondering why they cut off Gaza’s internet and electricity, that’s why.

Israel was 100% aware that cutting off power and internet to Gaza would prevent Palestinians from recording and publishing footage of its coming war crimes. They struck a fatal blow to citizen journalism in Gaza, thereby blinding the whole world to what’s happening there.

The mass media asked you to believe the Hamas attack was “unprovoked”. Then they asked you to believe blatant babies-on-bayonets atrocity propaganda. Now they’re asking you to believe Jewish kids were in school before dawn on a Saturday morning in Israel. Western journalism, folks.

The only reason so many Israel apologists scrambled to circulate unverified stories about beheaded babies and mass rapes instead of waiting for evidence was to make the real atrocities Israel is perpetrating and will continue to perpetrate in Gaza look reasonable and appropriate.

After this current crisis is over I’m probably going to think a lot about the fact that MSNBC suspended three Muslim reporters during Israel’s Gaza assault because it didn’t want Muslims reporting on it.

I used to think all genocidal massacres are bad but then some really smart Israel apologists explained to me that this genocidal massacre is completely different because this genocidal massacre’s perpetrators believe they are doing the right thing for a good reason.

If there were two million Jewish people trapped by Christians in a giant open-air prison and placed under total siege, being told that half of them had 24 hours to relocate into the other half or be killed, nobody would have any confusion about what they were witnessing.

Everyone’s got a serious case of 9/11 brain right now.

You know about 9/11 brain, kids? It’s when something scary happens and everyone goes insane and starts believing a bunch of lies and consenting to power-serving agendas that do exponentially more damage than the initial trauma.

I keep getting people acting like it’s controversial or even outlandish to say that Israel is an apartheid state. It’s not. The leading mainstream western human rights groups say it’s apartheid, as does the top human rights group in Israel.

They said we need more censorship because of Covid. They said we need more censorship because of Russia. They said we need more censorship because of January 6. Now they say we need more censorship because of the Hamas attack.

Maybe they just want more censorship?

Before engaging an Israel apologist in a debate about the ongoing Gaza purge, it’s probably a good idea to ask them to clarify whether there’s any amount of death and destruction Israel could inflict there that would cause them to stop supporting what Israel is doing. Is there a death count that they’d consider too much? How many dead Palestinian civilians are they willing to tolerate in this current operation? Tell them to give you a number.

If they can’t give you a number and place a limit on how much human butchery they’re willing to accept from Israel, that tells you they’re not actually defending Israel for reasons that have anything to do with humanitarian concerns or valuing human life. They’re saying they’ll defend Israel no matter what it does and no matter how many atrocities it commits, because their support for Israel is entirely based on ideology and/or religion. In which case there’s no reason to continue the debate, because you can’t debate someone out of their Christian fundamentalism or Zionism or Islamophobia or whatever it is that’s driving their support. They’re not arguing with you out of any interest in morality or justice or truth or facts, they’re arguing with you solely to advance an agenda.

The greatest trick white anti-semites ever pulled was getting Jews to leave western society in droves and move to a far away country to spend their lives beating up Muslims.

FrayedBear 9 Oct 15
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Redundant arguments should be just that. Let us stop debating whether or not Israel should or should not exist. It exists and it going nowhere. Similarly, the Palestinians are going nowhere too. The real question is WHAT kind of Israel should exist and ditto Palestine. Support for hawks on both sides only fuels the violence.

Nb. Britannica dictionary definition of Apartheid
a former social system in South Africa in which black people and people from other racial groups did not have the same political and economic rights as white people and were forced to live separately from white people
Okay we could equate blacks with Palistinians to blacks but the real bugbear is " did not have the same political and economic rights as white people and were forced to live separately from white people" It is a common misconception that all the palistinians live in Gaza and the West Bank and all the Israelis condemn them to stay there. The truth is that Israel is more of an ethnically mixed bag than that. Arabs make up 20% of all doctors in Israel, they have the 3rd largest party in parliment and the highest judge on the supreme court is Arab. So much for not having the same political rights. If fact Israeli Muslims have more rights than in any other country in the region (okay it is a low bar but still).
Ps. Hamas were "elected" to a plurality govt (no majority) in 2007 and have killed almost as many palistinians as Israel.

Without Israel Hamas would not exist. I like this Irishman -

And 9 years ago

@FrayedBear Oh so if we just waved a magic wand and dissolved the state of Israel then poof! all the problems of the area would disappear? That is what you propose as a solution? Do you not think that the people of Israel (including a considerable amount of Palestinians) might object? But they live on stolen land (well not all of it coz a lot and all of the West Bank settlements were bought on the open market but...) Okay, well assuming that Israel would not try and take that magic wand and shove up your arse, then why stop there? The United States of America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand should also be dissolved. Not to mention great swathes of S. America.
So no magic wands then. How about a time machine and reverse the British mandate? Because you have as much of a hope of inventing a time machine as you have of dissolving Israel.
"Oh but without US funding they would collapse" Really? The GDP of Israel was 488.5 billion USD in 2021. US funding was 6 billion, a nice chunk of change but not enough to collapse a nation if it was lost.
This redundant thinking is intellectually lazy and counterproductive. There are no magic wands or time machines that could bring about your solution. Israel exists and will continue to exist whether you like it or not, period. What type of Israel would we like to see and work toward is a far more interesting question but it will not be answered by terrorists that have an avowed aim to kill all Jews and drive Israel back into the sea.

@273kelvin What is your solution Kelvin? Nuke Gaza?

@FrayedBear Of course nuking Gaza is not a solution but neither is denying Israel the right to exist.

@273kelvin do enjoy "One kibbutz hostage's witness statement that her Hamas guards treated her humanely & that it was IDF..." & "A documentary clearly identifying who the inhumane animals are in Israel & Palestine - those ...".
Incidentally you & many others proclaim the right of the Jews to there own country. The fact of the matter is that the majority of them do not live in Israel. Furthermore why should they have their own country when people like the Sámi of Sápmi do not?
As for for people who are as itinerant as the Jews & who in recent times have been far more persecuted why is no one screaming that they be given their own country? I refer to the 2-12 million Romany & Sinti spread across the globe. The UK which has one of the smaller populations has an appalling record of discrimination against them.
I always find it interesting that it is only recently that a memorial to the Roma & Sinti exterminated in the holocaust was erected in Germany.

@FrayedBear The arguments on the rights and wrongs about whether or not Israel should exist are spurious. Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Eg. A recent court case has decided that a native American tribe legally owns 1/2 of Oklahoma. Now the tribal leaders are not stupid, they are not about to dispossess millions of Oklahomans and say "Get off of my yard". But it does give them legal rights to be tried in federal as opposed to state courts.*
A few years ago the American govt. asked if they could buy the freehold of their British embassy in Grosvenor Square. It is owned by the Duke of Westminster and he told them "I will give it to you free if you return Virginia back to my family after you seized it in the war of independence".
Israel is a country, it has been so since 1948. It will continue to be a country and fight to remain so, period. No progress towards a 2-state solution can continue until that obvious fact is recognised by all parties.

@273kelvin curious that the current denial of the right of palestinians to exist in Gaza is resulting in the current jewish led holocaust. But of course you don't want to go there do you Kelvin? Go & read "My reality on this site since February 2022." it has interesting correlation to what you are stating to be absolute truth.

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Hamas got the war they wanted, Bebe got the war he wanted. The people be damned.

Not according to the Israeli President Isaac Herzog: As the people didn't rise up against Their elected government they are responsible - a two edged sword or sword of Damocles hanging over both Israeli & Palestinian?

@FrayedBear link is unavailable

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Oh, Jesus! My response is not a prayer in any way whatsoever.

So what is your response?
Furthermore how is the use of the words ”prayer” & "Jesus" going to enlighten us?

@FrayedBear Oh, Jesus means I was swearing. That is my response.

@DenoPenno ie. Not contributing a solution.

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