Passive! Passive! Am I bollocks!!!!!

I am more of a live and let live type until I am tested, then I come out fighting with all my might. I will say that one of my closest friends and climbing partners is a hardcore Christian. We've gone on backpacking trips together and have had civil discussions about her belief. I love her heart and she is a deeply good person. We have agreed that on road trips, it is best that we don't listen to her Christian rock stations.

I kind of have the opposite problem ,I'm very outspoken about how absurd I see people's beliefs are . Something inside me tells me though that I should be more kind loving and Tolerant of all the silly people out there

My favorite graffiti was covered up I should re-stencil it.

It read: jesus died for his own sins, not mine!

That needs to be everywhere.

I don't ever do 'should's and ought's' I just live my life and I don't think stripping anyone of their ideals is helpful; so what would you do to help them next? Pay for their therapy?

I wasn't baptised, I wasn't married in a church' and I won't be buried with a church service . I don't really see why you are so angry - We have our autonomy others have their needs met -

Do you advocate civil war in order to force everyone to be atheist - It sort of hasn't happened very well in the communist bloc.

I don’t start things, but I’ll get loud if confronted.

Rosa Parks was not passive. She stood up even for this Caucasian as We as atheist, the lgbt community and more live in a better world because of her and many others of the Equal Rights movement. She was making a stand for African Americans at the time but look how much we have all benefited! She is my Hero!

Do we need to march into churches or protest in front of them? Maybe not. I will not stand for my son being sent to the principals office for telling his teacher he was an atheist after she TOLD him he was a Christian. This happened in a public school. We at least need to make our voices known. We need to normalize atheism and let the Fundamental wackos, like I was that we are normal good people. I have been becoming more active on the internet and have even started my own YouTube channel. Every one does not have to do that but we all have special talents and methods. It could be simply talking to friends. The thing is if it is thought hat we are a super small minority then we can be ignored, marginalized, or discriminated against.

In some countries one can be killed for being an atheist. So i do think it is important to engage Christians any all other religions.

Yes. We need to become a special interest group that exerts influence in Washington. We should organize as a bloc, advocate for our priorities, and resist the intrusive behavior of evangelicals.

I agree with you. We are a fairly passive lot when it comes to discussing beliefs. A few people mentioned religions bringing in people and their kids early. Religious institutions start talking about sky daddy frequently and as if it were a proven amazing fact. Many of us on this site went through those years of indoctrination. This site is an attempt to bring us together and perhaps do some things together. I think it may be a little harder for us to bond than religious folks though. They see each other frequently in their places of worship, perhaps at religious events and "study" and many of them are told we are lesser because we choose to "avoid" god. Not very many atheists want to die over issues because of their non-belief. Not saying an atheist would not die over a righteous cause, but it would not be because of non-belief. This is not true of many religious people, they will die in the name of their god at a high rate of speed. This battle cannot be won with force in my opinion. It will take patience and continuing advancement of the human race to prove it. All that said I would not expect it to get any better than the % that believe the earth is flat!

more like too apathetic

There are a few different issues there - yes, atheists should stand up and prevent the encroachment of religion into politics, public education and so on. The reason they've not been successful isn't because they're too passive it's because they come off sounding like jerks. Nothing good ever comes from starting a debate with "you're stupid or delusional" and atheists feel so smug and superior in their positions that walls are put up the minute they open their mouths. They may not believe the same thing as people of faith but they come off reeking of a@@hole just as much. I don't call myself an atheist specifically for that reason - I am a non-theist and I don't wear it on my sleeve or consider it the most important decision I ever made in my life. It's not profound, you're not anymore enlightened than anyone else - get over yourself and when you can set your arrogance and pride aside - you'll likely get more people to listen.

We do not have to respect their beliefs. But we have little hope of changing them.

I don't feel you can convince people of the non-existance of God. It is futile and I don't feel the need to be the Jackass Whisperer.

I think there are quite a number of atheists and secularists who have no problem at all busting a proverbial cap in the ass of organised religion, all in and confrontational with it. That said, it's an extremely deep rooted institution; so much so that people have killed and died over it for millennia, and will continue to do so. What's needed though is true political and legislative representation.

Not me! I argue a lot. If someone is compelled to rhapsodize about their religion in public, I take it as an invitation to debate... unless they are sweet and elderly.

no point as it will just cause grief. you can't change stupid.

Generally yes.
In part, I think, because most have relatives and others they want to stay on good terms with, and/or job related concerns.
Also the 'live and let live' mantra, errant as it is, plays a big part for many.
Neither is a concern of mine. Fuck religions and those who perpetuate them.
One thing is for sure, the more that come out the more that come out.