not with me; there is none. but i know what you're getting at, & can't fathom it either - which is probably why i never accumulated the dosh worth mentioning. every single person i know with a decent financial liberty has psychological issues that make enjoying that freedom impossible. i don't get the allure ... ?

If you're not ready to walk away from everything but your kids or give up everything to keep your kids, the relationship isn't that bad. I left with my son, personal items and my car without a job to move in with my parents again and felt like I gained the world with my freedom.

Money, or lack thereof, is an important issue in relationships. Some people need more than others, and some people need other people to be their source of support. I have chosen not to pursue relationships because of financial differences. I worked hard all my life to be in a comfortable position at this point in my life. I am lucky enough to have no debt, to own my home and vehicle, and have a pension for life. I like nice things and I provide them for myself. If I was going to be with someone they would need to carry their own weight financially. I'm not looking for a sugar daddy, but I'm not going to support someone else at this point in my life.

I haven't carried any debt since the mid 90's. If you figure out the difference between what you need and what you think you need, you can save yourself alot of stress with the money thing.

Because that is how u pay for the vacation.

I know we all need money to survive in an industrial economy. I'm in that boat, too. When we find a 'partner' they should be on the same page, going in the same direction; or maybe in the same chapter in the same book I had a partner who didn't want to carry her own water or even try to! That kind of partner will ruin you and I grappled with it for several decades and finally she walked out and tried to find a sugar daddy. Good luck with that. Maybe it's a queer sense of entitlement or maybe it's a case of just being lazy or selfish. I have no idea but there are loads and loads of people out there of all ages and orientations that are like that. Hopefully we can all dodge the next bullet coming our way and, yet, remain responsible.