Open this discussion. It treats penis-in-vagina sex as the only kind of sex.

It isn’t the only kind and it’s often too short and one-sided.

I don't think this should be dismissed as readily as some seem to have done.

If the woman does not want to be a mother and the father does want to be a father, the matter is settled because it is the woman's body that is needed to develop the fetus.

But if the man does not want to be a father but the mother does want to be a mother, she has the right to force the father into the parent role she could have easily refused. And then he would be obligated to provide parental support to this child he does not want?

Perhaps the validity of this point will become more apparent when an artificial womb is developed. Then when a woman does not want to be a mother and the father does want a child, then he should be able to have the fetus removed from the mother, developed in an artificial womb and obligate the mother to child support??

Hmmmmm???? Now that would be fair ..... right???

I'm a little confused by the double negative; but I'll try to add my 2 cents...

Are we in favor - or not in favor - of men having the option to refuse support a woman expecting a child?

This is tough. It will depend on the state and nation where the child care issue, the conditions of your relationship with the woman at the time of impregnation...and the condition of the relationship now.

It often comes down to personal values...of the couples involved and the judges/courts, if they get involved.

In general...decades ago it was more tolerable to hear about a man impregnating a woman then bailing on responsibility...that seems to have become less tolerable.

We hear, more often, of the need to be responsible for birthing a child. The world is growing by over a hundred more births, than deaths, per minute....it's generally irresponsible to even talk about not being responsible for a future child.

If it's you and you're looking for a strong defense...we'd have to know who "enticed" who. We'd have to know your income and relationship status; were you/are you married? To the same woman? Did you impregnate another while married to someone else? As you see there's lots we don't know....so it's a "loaded" question.

Both men and women have choice. Men have the choice of whether or not to impregnate by taking precautions during sex. They can also make sure they don't have sex with a woman that they are sure would want to keep the child no matter what.Women have that same choice except when raped. When a pregnancy occurs the woman has a choice about whether or not to carry it to completion. Over 50% of the time when she chooses to keep the child as an unmarried woman she ends up either providing for it herself or depending on the government to provide for it. Realistically, most non custofial parents don't pay their child support. I know that is not your question But I feel it should always be part of the conversation.

I think that since men do not have the ability to experience the physical and emotional aspects of pregnancy, they should not have any choice about whether or not it is completed to term. If I a woman wants to complete the pregnancy, the emotional burden of being forced to have an abortion would be criminal.

The pro pregnancy crowd thinks the child should have a choice too.

I think it's important that however a child comes into this world the adults responsible for that need to care for it. Children that do not have financial support from both parents usually experience a very underprivileged life.

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I think it's up to the two who created the child, they need to have a discussion. Plus he should always wear a condom to protect himself if he doesn't want children or get a vasectomy.

If it's your child grow up and support them help raise them give them love and guidance, be a parent

A man should support his children, both financially and personally. As the child of a failed marriage, I suffered abuse from two stepfathers, a fate i wish on no child. Furthermore, my absent father provided no guidance, which left me without a male role model. With years os self examination and cultural observation, I've succeeded in becoming a whole person, healed from my early childhood, but not everyone can do that.

Children grow up to make the next evolution of culture. Why is the US culture so screwed up?

I don't entertain such an argument myself.
It has nothing at all to do with a womans choice.
There are no reasons to tie the two together.
I do agree that paternity has been unfairly used to make men suffer.
Like the guy in Georgia that paid child support for 18 years because the jury laughed at him when he presented medical documentation of his vasectomy two years before the child was born.
Again, this has nothing at all to do with womens choice.

The only argument I heard was from Dave Chappelle. He said if the woman decides to have the child, she pays for it.