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My grandfather was was part of the greatest generation; surviving the Great Depression, and serving in WWII. His entire generation saw the polio, small pox, and other vaccines as a great privilege against these threats. Everyone back then knew people who had died or been permanently maimed by some sort of pestilence. People were lining up to get vaccinated; city, rural, democrats, republicans! Have Americans become so weak minded that we let political ideology determine vaccination or anti-vaccine? Has the 70 years of relative health prosperity made us arrogant or complacent? How would our greatest generation advise us?

Garban 8 Feb 15
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There was about a third of the population in the states in 1918 when the influenza epidemic hit and about 5 percent of the population died. There were also protest against the vaccine as well. Has that really changed much since then?

Cities were smaller and people more spread out. Information took longer to travel. Conspiracy theories in the bigger cities spread faster. The difference now is social media is almost instant and the population is larger.

Betty Level 8 July 22, 2022
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Wrong questions will result in wrong answers. It should be noted that both the Rethuglican Party and Fucks News have turned the vice of being ignorant into a virtue in the minds of all mentally defective Americans.

anglophone Level 8 July 22, 2022
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Hmm

proboy Level 3 July 22, 2022
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Let's see. Republicans won Florida by 30,000 votes in 2020. Since then 87,000 have died (in Florida) for resisting the vaccine...so they were mostly Republicans.

I see a trend here.

Robecology Level 9 Feb 16, 2022

The 87k number is probably 🐄💩 the way our governor counts. BTW I live in Florida, but don’t dare call me a Floridian!

@Garban you're right...Since Feb 15h it's only 67,911. In Florida.

[nytimes.com] I hear you about calling yourself a "Floridian"...I was born and raised in NY.

@Robecology Florida probably reset to 0 under our new surgeon general.

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I lived through all of that and knew people with polio. If we had the Internet in those days none of it would have happened.

DenoPenno Level 9 Feb 16, 2022
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To answer your questions, yes, yes, bugger off assholes.

MsKathleen Level 8 Feb 16, 2022
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Help. I’m new to social media. I got a notice that @LovinLarge of Ft Collins tagged me in this conversation. I came back to discover all of our love letters are gone! What happened? 😢

Garban Level 8 Feb 15, 2022
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Yes to all the questions, but the last one.

freedom41 Level 8 Feb 15, 2022
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With a huge dope slap right upside the head. My question is would we be going through this insanity had not the POS tRump been on the scene?

JackPedigo Level 9 Feb 15, 2022

I agree the political polarization has been the major cause for vaccine reluctance. Does anybody think that if we had more of “living memory” of severe pestilence it would encourage vaccination? I do.

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My dad too, they would tell us to think and get it done, they had me lined up for the first polio vaccine

bobwjr Level 10 Feb 15, 2022
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I bet you are a white man! You conveniently neglected to mention that generation's rampant racism, sexism and war-centered culture of bigotry and hate. Vaccination is important but let's keep our eye on the real prize. Nope, we refuse to return to the bad old days,! The best is yet to come, it's just taking us a while to get there.

LovinLarge Level 8 Feb 15, 2022

Yes I’m white. Sorry?
Yes I’m a man. SORRY!
Racism wasn’t my subject. Should it have been?
Sexism wasn’t my subject. Same question?
Imperialism wasn’t my subject. Same question?
Why the hostility? Do I owe you money?

@Garban You've whitewashed a period in American history as the greatest generation by overlooking the atrocities of the time because people like you bore the benefit but by all means don't let facts impede your revisionist history.

@LovinLarge I told a story about my grandparents getting vaccinated. By not mentioning the atrocious actions committed during the time I’m not ignoring them. You made the assumption that I’m a racist, sexist, imperialist and historical revisionist because I used the term “ greatest generation “? Maybe you should step back and think about that. You may miss out on making allies if you demonize everybody with different outlooks.

@Garban Repeating yourself won't help you. You made a serious misrepresentation and you are choosing to defend it rather than learn from your mistake. It is a merely a missed opportunity for you, as much as you would like to project it onto me. I have no interest in allies who identify historical revisionism as an "outlook".

@LovinLarge I just want to make sure I’m understanding you. By using the term “greatest generation” I’m automatically a imperial, racist, sexist, and a historical revisionist? That’s a lot of words to put in my mouth for reference to a common historical term used to identify a period of time from 1920 to 1945.

@Garban You didn't reference a "common historical term", you said that a particular period in history was the greatest American generation. When determining what is "greatest", you can't consider only the positives and ignore the negatives which is exactly what you did yet you deny it.

Instead of a substantive discussion, you just keep repeating yourself. I'm sorry, I have no interest in continuing to interact with you because you don't appear to have anything of value to contribute.

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Enhanced stupidity..... Darwin was wrong

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Our parents and grandparents would think it a form of lunacy to reject vaccination to protect ourselves from disease on the grounds of exercising our right to autonomy over our body!

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