So now I've learned something. "Paul Joseph Goebbels was one of Adolf Hitler's closest and most devoted associates, and was known for his skills in public speaking and his deeply virulent antisemitism, which was evident in his publicly voiced views. He advocated progressively harsher discrimination, including the extermination of the Jews in the Holocaust." His parents were strict Catholics ("Both of his parents were Roman Catholics with modest family backgrounds. His parents initially hoped that he would become a Catholic priest, and Goebbels seriously considered it." ) as was his wife and they brought up their 6 kids in that faith.
"As the war drew to a close and Nazi Germany faced defeat, Magda Goebbels and the Goebbels children joined him in Berlin. They moved into the underground Vorbunker, part of Hitler's underground bunker complex, on 22 April 1945. Hitler committed suicide on 30 April. In accordance with Hitler's will, Goebbels succeeded him as Chancellor of Germany; he served one day in this post. The following day, Goebbels and his wife committed suicide, after poisoning their six children with cyanide." From my readings the wife, Magda, was convinced that the invading forces (Russians and Americans) were pagan barbarians and to protect her children from hell she had to execute them which she did. I have also read of other religious zealots in Germany at that time doing the same.
All this I knew but what I didn't know: "At the University of Heidelberg, Goebbels wrote his doctoral thesis..." I was indirectly involved with the University of Heidelberg for 15 years and had no idea. A story I heard was that when the Americans marched on Heidelberg the commander of the US forces gave the mayor a choice. He said he was a student at the university and had fond memories but if the city resisted they would destroy it. The mayor gave in willingly so there was no invasion.
And they would be lying.... Christians in general and the Catholic church in particular both have generated tons of propaganda trying to distance themselves from Hitler... Truth is the Vatican was working with him in many cases .
@Lizard_of_Ahaz >And they would be lying....
Come here, me bucko.
This is why I got thrown off Facebook: True Christian is an idealized creature that doesn't exist. It's up there with the expression "No true Scotchman . . . . " There are people who'll argue Catholics aren't true* Christian.
Facebook considered that hate speech and threw me off for good.
@WonderWartHog99 Mark Fuckerberg hates it when people criticize his imaginary friend...
@WonderWartHog99 Not wishing to detract from your comment but I can't let the "no true Scotchman" reference go. A 'scotchman' is a Chivas Regal drinker.
@MsDemeanour >A 'scotchman' is a Chivas Regal drinker.
What are the Scottish women drinking? (I tried to google it but was lead down blind alleys with worthless details about the amount alcohol consumed, types of beers, brands of whiskeys, yatta, yatta). From the sound of it, they're drinking 40% more alcohol than us gringos.
My people!
Seriously when my ancestors got off the ship, I'm convinced they said "We don't want any white women." Then they started showing the native American women the quirks of distilling fire water. Tribal women started exposing them to something called bitters, native herbs and exotic things like how to eat cattail roots.
Due to the high rate of alcoholism among native Americans, tribal chiefs banned my ancestors from their tribes forcing us to accept white women as our fate. Today if you visit a reservation, you will discover you can't buy a stiff drink.
My people!
@WonderWartHog99 ooooooK. I just meant the fallacy saying is 'No true Scotsman" ; that 'scotch' refers to the drink. Sorry my meaning was obscure.
@MsDemeanour All is forgiven. Go forth and sin some more.
Why I'd even let you have a shot of Petunia's Irish whiskey, Old Bushmills to celebrate the errors of our ways. In the winter Petunia likes to alternate hot chocolate with Irish coffee.
Albert Leo Schlagete, 12 August 1894 – 26 May 1923) was a member of the German Freikorps. Schlageter sabotaged a section of railroad track in the region of Germany that was under French occupation after World War I. He was arrested and executed by the French military. This led the German nationalists to proclaim him a hero. His way of death fostered an aura of martyrdom around him, which was cultivated by German nationalist groups, in particular the Nazi Party. During the Third Reich, he was widely commemorated as a national hero - Wiki.
Good evidence!
Actually the Swastika was used by the church throughout Europe for centuries... He incorporated it not just because he liked the design but because it was on the archway spanning the entrance to his Catholic school as a child...
Yeah, that's why he had nazis running all over the world looking for religious
"artifacts".
I know the Indiana Jones movies were fiction, but there was actually some truth
behind them.
He actually believed that shit had power and would bring him "divine assistance".
What a fucking moron. In OH so many ways.
Very similar traits to our Orange Idiot.
Hitler wanted his own Aryan religion but was quite happy to use the willing Christians (and others) to do his dirty work
His own "Aryan religion" was Christianity....
@Lizard_of_Ahaz shades of the same but they did spend considerable time and effort trying to find a true ancient Teutonic religion that would replace Christianity
@bookofmoron Those ones were weeded out during the Night of the Long Knives... Hitler's goal was to restore the Holy Roman Empire not replace Christ-Insanity...
Posted by backtobasicsHow the Puritans Thanksgiving should have gone.
Posted by glennlabLeave the kids alone.
Posted by mistymoon77Get your mind out of the gutter.. just passing along some tidbits of knowledge here.. ;)
Posted by KilltheskyfairyI like it! Also good way to use churches that are closed for 6 days!
Posted by KilltheskyfairyWhat up with that?
Posted by glennlabLet's give peas a chance.
Posted by backtobasicsThe shortest distance between two points is a straight line... Unless you are traveling on a the surface of a sphere.
Posted by bookofmoronsGoing for Level 9. maybe this road will help
Posted by glennlabDeath is nature's way of telling you it is time to slow down.
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Posted by bookofmoronsWhen a picture is worth a thousand words
Posted by noworry28Evangelicals and Conservative Christian Nationalists today.
Posted by glennlabMy heart goes out to those suffering in the wake of both the recent hurricanes, Will the idiots that don't want to help stop lying.
Posted by glennlabGood old Betty calling a spade a fucking shovel.
Posted by bookofmoronsspeaks for itself