I have noticed how well gun control works in Mexico. How about some sanity for a change. and yes if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

@Oldman51 I find it strange that this argument is even happening. because as I see it the real issue has never been ether to ban or not ban guns, but to have better information so that people who are mentally unstable cannot have access to them and minors are protected from access.

@SpikeTalon there's a falsehood that's held by arrogant people who believe ALL poor people sit on their ass and just don't want to work.that's just what you rich people say and think. When the average hardworking person can't afford Mental Health Service for a child who is at risk and perhaps mentally Disturbed ,this might be another school shooting. who knows, maybe a rich person's child dressed in $2,000 outfit living in a big million dollar home might be the next victim. I do believe that humans are animals and we are . Humans are pack animals. Not only do we care for own offspring, but we cannot exist as independent Hunters. Someone had to raise you, someone had to teach you, someone had to give you opportunities, someone even has to put food on the shelves at the grocery store so you can use your money to buy them, someone had to manufacturer that food, make your expensive clothes, every single item that you own is possible because of the work of millions of other people. There is not one person on the face of this planet that can claim to be a self-made millionaire they don't exist. And when one segment goes down, like the average working poor person, it's felt throughout the entire system.

@SpikeTalon humans were not independent solitary Hunters. Humans were tribal when we were evolving. as long as the minimum wage is not a living wage more jobs will do no good. The fact is the Filthy Rich 2% are the biggest welfare recipients in the world. The average hard-working American does see an increase in taxes because the Filthy Rich business owners refuse to pay a living wage. Many of them hire only part-time people so they don't have to pay benefits. Benefits these days are nothing like they used to be for our parents. You can't look to your great-grandfather and use him as an example for what goes on today. it's a completely different time. There's absolutely nothing that stays the same. the founder of Facebook may be rich ,but he has only people who use his services that make him that way.

@SpikeTalon if Yeah wasn't so greedy and charged $2,000 a month for private insurance maybe they would. There is absolutely zero way that the insurance companies are going to try and accommodate those with lower wages and give them affordable good insurance. You are dead wrong to believe that . Money is so much more valuable than anything in this country, and it really is our 'God'.that is the biggest pile of bullfuck I've ever heard in my life. Not everybody is l Filthy Rich like you. Libertarians for instance are the rich man's anarchists . Constitutional conservatives are also anarchists they don't believe in taxes or laws. Libertarians want to trade off the government for lawyers. There will be no laws against people selling items that would kill others to make a buck. People would be selling insurance plans with no money or intention to backup any claims cuz they would use it for themselves. Lawyers would rule the country.