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So the maximum bet on fixed odds machines has tumbled to £2. The betting industry are telling us it will cause the loss of thousands of jobs. What do you think?

Flettie 7 May 17
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I work in a being shop and the vast, vast majority of people already play at £2 a spin or lower. The only thing this will mean is that roulette will go or will slightly change format to get through a loophole.

£2 maximum spins will actually lower the category of the machines (currently B2) and will mean bookies will have to pay less in taxes, industry dividends and levies and will also mean that there can be more than 4 machines on the premesis.

Bross92154 Level 2 June 25, 2018

Unemployment is low. Good chance of another job for those employed by betting shops. What chance of regaining your respect, house and family after losing all through addiction?

Mcflewster Level 7 May 21, 2018

Yes, if this has the intended effect there may well be job losses. Like most infrequent gamblers I see little harm in the occasional flutter. Problem gamblers are a small minority. However they are responsible for 80% of the industry's income. These fixed odds machines have been show to be particularly troubling. If these changes do indeed reduce the impact on people with gambling addictions then it will hit the betting industry in the balance sheet. Maybe one of the 7 betting shops in my local high street will have to close. If the closed a bookies and opened a bookshop I wouldn't be too upset.

MattHardy Level 7 May 20, 2018

Some religions ban gambling, and they do so for a good reason which doesn't come from any god - it's simply wisdom learned from bitter experience that gambling harms people.


Perhaps a bit cynical of me but I doubt the betting industry's real concern is over job losses.
Of course people who want to gamble will continue to do so but the industry has grown enormously in recent years. More people are gambling than ever before.
The gambling industry is notoriously corrupt

JimmyM Level 7 May 18, 2018

@rakuman no, sorry. Having adverts can no longer entice people with the possibility of winning any more.


We used to drop a tanner (6d) in the slot machine after buying a round. If it won we pocketed it and took the round just bought to be drunk. I had to meet an Australian addict, a woman on the boat from Singapore to Freemantle to learn the problem of addiction. The whole issue points straight back at government that allows it.

FrayedBear Level 9 May 18, 2018

again the issues of lobbying is important here. I think lobbying is the thin end of the corruption wedge

@Flettie particularly ex pollies doing the lobbying to boost up their super.


There are many good points expressed here. I see problem gambling as a complex problem. But if this measure saves a few people from ruin, then I applaud it.
Yes, those punters who are hard core will find other things to bet on but won't the opportunity to make stupid bet after stupid bet be disrupted in many or most cases? If the rush obtained from taking many high risks back to back Is not there, then doesn't that mean fewer or no people will become addicted to it. After all you can't become addicted to something you can't try.
As for the jobs that will be lost, I think that morally, compensation is due from those that benefited from the profits. If nothing is forthcoming, it shows the moral character of the companies concerned. It's a shame that the government did not address this in the legislation.


Gambling is an awful addiction. If this slows people down it'll be a good thing.

GoldenDoll Level 7 May 18, 2018

If you want to bet a 100 quid on something, you don't need a machine to do it, just another moron willing to bet against you.
People bet on everything and everything before these machines existed and they will again.

But not to the same degree. If ease of fixed odds machines hadn't got more people gambling more money the industry simply wouldnt have put the machines there


It might also save a lot of people from getting into serious trouble. A chap I used to work with had big problems with gambling ended up stealing a "significant sum" (as the police put it) to find his fixed odds machine addiction. He got caught and was sacked only a few months before his partner had a baby; two years down the line with a criminal record, he's still looking for a new job.

Jnei Level 8 May 17, 2018

Good . It will only cost jobs because the bosses don't won't a pay cut

Simon1 Level 7 May 17, 2018

It's a con. The only people who win are the shareholders.

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