It has just come to my attention that the 26th of January is not only the date Australia celebrates its British Colonisation - aka by Australian First Nations People who have lived here for 50, 000 years as Invasion Day, but it is also the anniversary of the death in 1965 of Sir Winston Churchill.
Now as some of you know Winston Churchill is not particularly held in high esteem by myself and if they knew their history the ancestors of New Zealand and Australian soldiers slaughtered in the bloodbath commonly known as Gallipoli in WWI would also have their doubts.
It was with interest that I read of this little spat between Scottish MP Ross Greer who calls Churchill a "mass murderer" and "Good Morning Britain's" Piers Morgan who in a tweet called Greer a "thick ginger turd", Greer is a slightly built young man, Morgan an overfed, under exercised middle aged man.
Piers Morgan in TV bust-up with Scottish politician who labeled Winston Churchill a 'mass murderer' [rt.com]
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Australia day date has changed on many occassions.
It started as a way to help funding during the second world war on 30th of January. For money and morale. There were all types of Australians fighting in that war. While foundation day or Anniversary day (basically when settlers got here and genocided the aboriginals being celebrated) since the 1800s if didn't go from being Foundation Day/Anniversary Day To Australia Day until 1935. Which is on the 26th of January.
I think if anything the problem with the date is that it is still the date a genocide was celebrated but we changed the name. We hid away the agricultural/building/sustainablity that the aboriginals had and some still do but less after stolen generation (which is later of-course). It's a thanksgiving that has forgotten its history. While Advance Australia Fair isn't God save the Queen it is still a racist national anthem.
It's one thing to say Happy Australia Day for all Australians first and new. That's what comes to mind to many now.It's another to celebrate on a date to positively remember 'foundation day'. Hey at least if we become a Republic the aboriginals will finally get a treaty (Canada also a commonwealth has one) and a bill of rights.
DragonDust
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Jan 31, 2019
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A bill of wrongs more likely. Australia has always been one of the first to ratify the UN Human Rights Conventions but is the only country not to have incorporated them into law.
@FrayedBear It isn't that aboriginals have no rights. They do. It's that we don't have a bill of rights for anyone.
@DragonDust I never mentioned First Nations People and I'm well aware of Australian hypocrisy having been denied mine and my child's rights by a full bench of the Australian Family Court.
Yes ... the ANZAC debacle
PontifexMarximus
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Jan 29, 2019
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Hello. Where have you been? Have you just got back from xmess festivities?
Ah yes, the Pommie run carnage of ANZAC troops that should never have happened. I had a Great-Uncle who served at Gallipoli, he was shot twice, once by a Turk ( which gave him the wound that sent him home,) and once by a Pommie Officer while him and two of his mates were return from a reco, all because the Pom Officer couldn't quite remember the password.
I had 2 Uncles who served in WWII, 1 in the European/African Theatre and 1 in the Pacific Theatre with the Yanks.
Uncle Dave served at the Battle of Tobruk, started off as private, got promoted to a Sergeant, then got demoted back to the ranks simply because he shot a Pommie Officer in the bum, the Pommie was outside of the lines one night trying to find his way back to his tent, stopped for a shit and poked his bum up in the air while pulling his pants back up, being on sentry duty and given FIRM orders to shoot ANYTHING moving in the 'No Mans Land region' Uncle Dave obeyed the orders to the letter, took aim and fired, as he once told me, " at the biggest part of the body he could see." No-one ever found out if the Pommie ended up with 'brain' damage though.
When both uncles got together they'd compare notes on the 'allies' they served with and both would agree that the only ally worse than a Pom was a Yank.
@Triphid Thanks for that hilarious brief tour of the family history - loved it. I would love to say that I had a pommie mate who was a Tobruk Rat who got shot in the arse by an Ozzie sentry whilst pulling his daks up after having a shit in no man's land but sadly I can't. What a ripper of a tale or should that be tail? ??????
@Triphid my Tobruk Rat mate just bought and sold watches and cigarette lighters throughout the war and after. Met him whilst waiting for the commuter train to Gosford from Sydney during the weekly go slow. Back then it took 2 hours 20 minutes to travel 50 kilometres - now it takes 2 hours 30 minutes. That's progress.
@FrayedBear Uncle Dave had a 'talent' for scrounging, especially in the Officers Tents, he was well known for his ability to never return empty handed from a sojourn into 'whinging Pomland' as he called it.
On one occasion he told me how he 'manage' to convince 5 bottles of Johnny Walker, 4 bottles of Dom Perignon, a case of English Digestive Biscuits, 16 pairs of the best English socks, 8 fresh baked loaves of bread and a dozen tins of the finest English Stew to 'defect' to Aussie camp. The poms searched everywhere for those nasty defectors but found absolutely nothing at all. Mind you, his fellow Aussie mate enjoyed them immensely though.
@Triphid I bet they did.
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