You have obviously never met a Libertarian. Nice jargon though.

@Krypto-Knight you obviously misread her first sentence. Or are you claiming she is a liar without providing the terms of that claim. Then you seemingly use the conditioned political rhetoric tactic of attack with negative labeling of her opinion. Again without any substantial reasoning.

From above at the end of my initial post-----Free thinker should be removed from this site! Obviously there are a ton of people here who use that moniker who can't.

I rest my case. That didn't take long. Thank you for your participation. Please get that under control or feel free to leave my group on your own accord.

Mermaidfantasy has been a frequent visitor and an occasional posting and commenting participant of this group for quite some time who has never resorted to the tactics of your nature. Even though I don't always agree with her opinions, we are able to conduct our differences within intellectual discourse, within debate style, or simply throwing our opinions out, without negativity. I will not tolerate useless responses such as yours above on any of my members.

{They say live and let live, not religious or raciest and do believe in equal rights when it comes to race, sex and sexual orientation}

I've always referred to these as being like the carrot on the string near the rabbit hole to pull supporters within. Both republicans and democrats use these same issues falsely also. The Paul's made a career out of it, then often voted with the republicans to show their hypocrisy.

@William_Mary The very few I know,( one is a very dear friend and I adore him for so many other traits) but we have had short political discussions because we do not agree on much, not that that is needed for a discussion but he tends to avoid talking politics to keep the peace and friendships. . I never labeled them they did themselves as Librarians , not me.
I wish no parties existed and all politicians had to run on what they stand for not behind a party. We would have a better idea of what and who we were voting for.

@William_Mary nope, I said a Libertarian. Many people claim things that they really don't understand what it really means. Plenty of Republicans are Republicans just because they don't like Democrats and same with Democrats. There has been a recent surge of "Libertarians" this year. Most of them only support because of the no more IRS or the decriminalization end of the drug war. But if you talk to them they have no idea what Libertarian really means. Visit a chatroom or web page and see how many people are ala cart Libertarian. That's why I said that she obviously hasn't meet a Libertarian. Based on her description, those are not Libertarian Ideals.

@Krypto-Knight while I don't agree with every statement she made in her post, she seems to have a pretty close sense to them as I do. I also don't see much of a difference between them and the republican party.

I see the republicans as a light state communist party where privatization is at the expense of social construct. While falsely claiming they want less government and less spending while boasting about a free market that doesn't exist. Tax breaks for the rich and a market built on monopolies in which only the rich people benefit highly contradicting their governmental claims.

Why has history always lead to these people voting and in compliance to the republican party then? The Paul's are a prime example. They don't even pretend though to seemingly be more about a state run communist like entity. They willingly admit to a compliance with privatization at the expense of social structure. When one gets in office such as a mayor or governor they always go after social structure towards privatization. Then they cook the numbers to how they have improved a deficit while leaving out the social damage left behind. Sure, they argue support of a few mere socially accepted issues, falsely I'll argue, as attention grabs, but when it comes to legislation they never put forth a genuine effort to pass or even introduce such claims. And almost each of these issues are issues that the republican party they seat with in congress would never support. Hence my falsely remark.

You're right about one thing I'll agree with. Many of their supporters are every bit as ignorant to the structure of Libertarians as many of the supporters of the democratic and republican party. I have a few years of learning about Libertarians from listening to Thom Hartmann's talks on the history of that party's founding. And everything I've observed from the Paul's and other politicians of the party, especially more recently in 2016 researching Gary Johnson, Thom was spot on. I found his writings on the founding of that party quite informative and proven correct from history. And quite frankly I find it laughable to find any Libertarian credible after 2016 who still finds words of support for Johnson's horrific showing. If you read his profile at Wikipedia you'll see how the numbers were cooked as I mentioned above during his 2 terms as governor. It starts out painting a nice picture for him but as the history section goes it exposes the real damage. And seriously at a time at that moment to attempt to deflect from understanding the question on Aleppo as he did was ludicrous. Aleppo had been in the spot light for weeks at that time. And the profile exposes why that went over his head also.

@William_Mary Right and Left playing Good Cop-Bad Cop game, both are still Cop with the same agenda just different methods of achieving it. Republicans pretend to support Freedom but don't protect the Bill of Rights. If Trump really Supported 2a then why the bump stock ban and the new taxes on ammo? Libertarian Party supports and believe in the Consitution and the Bill of Rights. Civil Liberties are being stripped away with no Republican opposition.