Am I wrong for comparing the religious to Nazism?
They both only want to be around people who are just like them. They both spew hate speech & degradation to others not like them. They both wish for death of others not like them??? Am I the only one who sees the direct resemblance??
Fascism is the ruling class taking direct control of capitalism following a crisis.
All niceties such as democracy, law, culture etc are discarded. Undesirables are usually used as slave labour in the ruling class's factories and businesses. Dissent is crushed. It is the ruling class taking control.
Another atheist militant polling. Did you ever thought that hitler and malcolm x had a lot in common? hitler and trump have a lot in common. Most members of the nazi party were people like you, simply of another race. Many germans didn't knew what happened until it was over. Do you know what happened to the 1500 missing children separated from their parents that can't be located by the american government? Do you care what happened to them? Should the regular registered democrat or republican american be held responsible? Never met an american that didn't wished somebody was dead. Very possible everybody in the world want somebody dead and keep on wishing to the stars. Who do you want dead? christians, muslims? white devils? Somebody said this saying... "The criminal judges by his condition". I am an atheist that do not worry about any religion or any political party of another country in the last century. Nor do I wake up every morning looking to pick up a fight with the first cross I encounter.
Both Professor Stuart Hall in 1979 and in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt wrote articles defining the major points in identifying extreme nationalism and or fascism, just as a thought experiment I took their criteria adapted and applied it to the LDS and to a lesser extent to religion in general
If you accept the above as indicative of a fascist state then the LDS and to a lesser extent all religions are fascist institution.
It's best to not view people as a monolith, I think. For some, their religious views are tempered by rational thought. For others, it justifies the worst impulses. There are definitely parallels, no doubt about it! Still, many religious people fought those Nazis.
Humanity is attempting to be rational and civilised, but it's really hard to do. The cosmos is built in a way that would kill us in an instant. Nature is brutal and we are doing our best to be something more orderly than the mud we sprang from. Progress is messy, disorganised, and violent sometimes... but at least we are talking about it, seeing it, and realizing we could do better.
That's a start at something better.
I've been using the term "ChristiaNazis" for years. I coined it in college when I briefly became "born again" (sorta) and all of a sudden my "friends" were telling me I had to stop playing video games, get rid of all my music CDs that weren't Christian, and that my grandparents were in torment in Hell because they went to a United Church of Christ church.
In some ways religion is very much like Nazism. Some religious people feel that everyone should have to follow their views by law, regardless of what a person's views/beliefs are. They think that anyone who doesn't agree with them should be killed. That's not how a civilized society works.
It’s sort of like Nazism in devotion to authority, justifications for sadism, and strict loyalty. Nazism is ALWAYS murderous, however, while religious adherents can find softer interpretations which involve compassion, generosity, and love. Nazism is devoid of those traits. It seeks only to punish.
Nazism was essentially a religious movement. Under the Nazi regime Atheism was illegal. The motto Gott Mit Uns was on every soldier's belt buckle. The date that was chosen for the Reichskristallnacht, the event that started the progrome against the Jews, was Martin Luther's birthday.
NAZIism is/was a form of nationalism: fascism, control of opposers,...
NAZIims also included racial purity mandates.
islam is the best/worst example at the moment. The saudi jerks are less interested in religion for themselves, but they are nazis in the sense of controlling all who live near them. And they are interested in expansion: they are funding many muslim groups in europe, including mosques.
The talaban, isis, these are very similar. But, with less emphasis on racial differences.
Then, by your logic, atheists are like Nazi's as well:
"They both only want to be around people who are just like them."
You mean like the majority of atheists/agnostics on this site, who clamor to a website to only be around atheists?
"They both spew hate speech & degradation to others not like them. "
You mean like military atheists who spew hate speech and degradation to others who don't accept their atheistic views?
"They both wish for death of others not like them???"
Again, you mean like military atheists who envision that a world without the religious would be a better world?
"Am I the only one who sees the direct resemblance??"
It's called Godwin's law for a reason, because eventually, everything and everyone gets compared to hitler: "if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds".
Nazis were Nazis and best not to try to compare anything with them with anything or anyone except other Nazi's. Such comparison will almost always be a false comparison and invoke a strawman fallacy, as I did with atheists above..
I Would not directly compare, but I do remind people the fact that Hitler was a . According to the social peckikg order, the Jews were persecuted for other reasons than just thier religious vews, it was the fact that they, as a whole,had power and money and owned business, at a time the entire nation was in a depression. They were targets for political power. And money. Both of our political party's throw "Nazi" comparisons at each other, but never make the connection that Nazis were mostly s , the swastika was a symbol that Hitler used to see as a child in his church. I wouldn't say compare, but connect the two words
I grew up in a catholic family. I can't remember a time where I did not question what I was taught. I researched a number of books and theories, asking if Jesus existed, if he was married, had kids. Did he really die on the cross. I moved on to reading about many myths and other religions I am one of the few that will invite a Jehovah's Witness into my home.
People want to belong to a group that they have something in common with. We also want to trust the people who lead us. This is why we get people that in the extreme, develop the ability to kill what is not of their group. Nazism was concerned with murdering those who did not fit into a certain criteria.This was their purpose.
Religion is concerned with defining the meaning of existence and wants to convert others to their way. The killers are the ones on the extreme end of the scale. They are not the norm.