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Not always is there guilt or anxiety but all to often, we waste time on the past or future and forget about focusing on the here and now and being in the present.

mistymoon77 9 June 8
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Thank you.

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Carpe Diem quam minimum credula postero I think I remember that right

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Guilt and anxiety have their place in life. They are adaptive measures for success. But, everyone needs to realize, none of us gets output of this particular game alive. This is a zero sum game. Remember that and live your life accordingly.

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Guilt is far from the only symptom related to the past. Depression is often largely about the past, too. Most specifically, we are depressed because we did not live up to what was once our "ideal" or "aspirational" self -- or that life itself did not comport itself with our idealized notion of it. In my experience most of these ideas I had 40 years ago were somewhere between bogus and unrealistic to begin with. You can't legitimately mourn the loss of something you never really had to begin with, but it's a perceived loss just the same, and if you don't make some kind of peace with it the result is likely depression. One way out of this particular thicket according to shrinks is to focus on your present, actual self (and obviously the more you really know yourself, the better) and your current [in]actions and [mis]behaviors, all of which are far more fixable if need be, and certainly, at least somewhat actionable compared to the past, which isn't fixable or actionable AT ALL. The past is just a sunk cost.

I have some personal experience with this because of the wildly unrealistic expectations set by my religion of origin, evangelical Christianity. The bar was set high -- all believers were supposed to be juiced and living the "victorious life" -- and the expectations were downright orbital (god is tipping the scales in our favor, protecting us, enlightening us, guiding us, blessing us). No way can you live up to that back here in the real world, and no way can your outcomes be what those beliefs would predict. So you end up either increasingly delusional, or feeling terrible guilt and regret and depression because you're convinced you've failed god in some way. Or some combination of the two. Or, like me, you just get out and resolve the problem that way.

To me religion equals guilt, control, judgement and stifling ones true nature in order to manipulate to a biased theory. It's called mind control and it's powerful and scary! !!

@2muchstupidity I agree but I know non-religious people with the same disordered thinking. Religion often just rationalizes and amplifies disordered thinking, and invents new ways to misunderstand life. And why wouldn't that be the case? Religion to my knowledge has never innovated, invented, improved or corrected anything in real life. All it knows to do is make random assertions and then punish people for disagreeing with them.

I suppose you can make a case that even the areligious are influenced by the majority religious ideation in society but that smells like confirmation bias to me. In fact the real problem IS largely confirmation bias. Religion's great societal harm is in embracing the deeply flawed thought processes of humanity and considering them virtues rather than vices. We should be recognizing our mental limitations and working to improve them instead.

I've never been religious. I suffer from depression. It's been diagnosed as organic but I think falling short of my expectations is an enormous contributing factor. I don't know if it is a horse and cart thing but it doesn't matter because all that matters is the present. Your brief post reinforced that for me. Thanks.

@Dingodog Glad it was helpful! A contrarian thought about "organic" depression. You are generally going to have doctors tell you it's a chemical imbalance, because they don't know anything but prescribing pills for the most part. For a real eye opener on this, I cannot recommend this book enough: Lost Connections: Understanding the Real Causes of Depression -- and the Unexpected Solutions by Johann Hari. It's a fantastic thought provoking book that exposes you to a lot of science on the topic that has nothing to do with chemical imbalances. Well worth the read.

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Once I read that depression is too much past....anxiety is too much future....and the present is the reality we must deal with w/o carrying the past on our shoulders nor forecasting fears that may never be.

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Preach!

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Thank you for sharing this.

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Especially when people tell you some God’s version of the past, which doesn’t happen to accord with science, and thereby tries to determine how you should live your life in the future.

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Yep Be Here Now.

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That's all easier said than done. Unfortunately.

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A great quote

Count Level 5 June 8, 2018
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So true! And sometimes it can be dangerous, not to be focused in the moment!

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