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Just to be clear, I'm stealing this poll question from the Today show. But it's an interesting & topical issue and, I mean, how many of you watch that show? It deserves this audience to weigh in too.

So, close to half of high schools in this country have done away with recognizing the Valedictorian(s) and giving them a graduation speech or indicating this honor on any transcripts or correspondence with the universities these students may wish to attend. Do you believe we should still recognize the most academically accomplished students and name them Valedictorian?

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Artisan1992 5 June 14
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For those of you against valedictorians tell me this, do you care if your heart surgeon is an idiot? Your response is probably well if he was an idiot he couldn't get into medical school. Except if there are no grades and no way to determine who the idiots are and they just let people into medical school because they seem like nice people and everyone should have an equal chance, how do you judge competency? If you don't care if your brain surgery is done by a doctor from Our Lady of the Connecticut Turnpike Medical School vs someone from Harvard Medical School then you don't deserve to have any quality control and you're saying there just should be no standards by which to judge people. Good luck with your surgery

lerlo Level 8 June 25, 2018

Hi lerlo, first let me be clear in stating I'm in favor of continuing to honor Valedictorians. I would develop a system that fairly selected only 1 or 2 to give graduation speeches, but if the graduating class had 18, 19, or even 50, they should all be given the honor and allowed to proudly use it in their future academic & life pursuits.

I did need to kindly point out that your second comment makes a bit of an argumentative leap from anything my poll question touches on when you state, "Except if there are no grades and no way to determine who the idiots are..." The question was simply about schools and whether they should continue to honor & recognize Valedictorians, not about abolishing the grading system. No big deal, but in the interest of accuracy and a fidelity to the original poll query, I felt I needed to point that out.
Hope you're enjoying your day, and thanks for caring.

@Artisan1992 My second comment, as I indicated, was directed to the people voting to get rid of the valedictorians and one cited an article advocating getting rid of grades etc. As for who speaks at graduation, who cares? The college cares about grades not who gave the speech. Anyone with encouraging words or inspiring things to say should get to speak. Maybe it has nothing to do with grades. Should the top student(s)be recognized with the title, sure. To keep the query accurate 🙂

@lerlo Thanks for clearing that up. I should have done a better job of realizing the context and the cited article you referenced before criticizing your perfectly reasonable comment. My apologies.

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This "give everyone a trophy" bullshit is getting ridiculous. Where did it start? Were the stupid kids complaining that they didn't get to talk at graduation? What is the harm in rewarding someone for finishing at the top of their class? Our country used to be first in education now it's not even close.

lerlo Level 8 June 25, 2018
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Most definitely. We should honor people that have strived to be the best at what they do.

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I'm all for encouraging weak students to do better, but total inclusion by down playing others accomplishments is not how you do it. High school graduates are on the cusp of adulthood and all this does is reinforce the idea that hard work gets you nothing more than mediocre work will.

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I voted Yes. I worked very hard through high school so I could be the valedictorian. Then, at graduation time, it was given to someone not even close to my average on the grounds that I had won too many academic awards and other people would be jealous. Decades later, I still feel robbed.

That is appalling!

@Geoffrey51 I thought so, too. I still do when the topic comes up. (I even had my speech outlined - poop)

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As long as schools have King and Queen popularity contests, sports recognition, beauty contests, then yes academic recognition is equally valid.

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At my daughter's high school there were 8 students tied for valedictorian. There was an in-state scholarship associated with the award and it went to the 9th student because the top 8 all were going out of state with bigger scholarships. Because of Advanced Placement courses, all had GPAs over 4.0

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Keep it; let them enjoy it. It's a distinction among their peers and a way to reward hard work that costs nothing to continue.

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early bloomers do not always keep up with the pressure of being labelled the best

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Those kids work extremely hard for that achievement. Keep it I say

Ryksie Level 6 June 14, 2018
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IMO the competitiveness of the title is a very rare win-with-no-loss scenario. Universities are impressed if you're the valedictorian, but it's not a miss if you're not but have high grades.

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I chose "Yes, Keep The Valedictorian". I find the mentality that we shouldn't recognize someone's accomplishment in order to avoid offending others repugnant. If you view every other person as a competitor you must best in order to be happy/satisfied you are a miserable person indeed. Why can't you just be happy for them?

Haha. The one who views every other person as a competitor one must best usually is the valedictorian.

@bingst Maybe, maybe not. Nothing wrong with being competitive but the idea that winning is everything only leads to problems.

@FireBorn One, I can't agree that there's nothing wrong with it. Two, what's the point of being competitive if one doesn't hold to the idea that winning is everything? lol

@bingst Being reasonably competitive can drive us to achieve more but by taking the position that not winning means all effort was for naught only short-changes ourselves.

@FireBorn Just out of curiosity, are you a sports fan? Do you support sports in schools?

@bingst Not really, no.

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Keep the vacation. The last thing we want to do is give mass shooters more opportunities.

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Political correctness, which is what this is about, is destroying our society in so many ways. Recognizing ability and effort should not be considered a form of elitism, rather an honor earned.

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I was by no means a valedictorian. but I believe if you worked that hard, and earned that title, you should be recognized for it.

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This frustrated me about the high school my kids attended. Both of my sons were valedictorians and neither got any recognition for it. My daughter graduated with one other student a year early and again no recognition. 😟 Trump would be a good example of the low quality you get with popularity contests. 😉

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One of the problems with education in this country is that we have slowly taken away the incentives to do well. We're so concerned with making it so the kids at the bottom appear to succeed that we've lowered standards and removed the environment that made it challenging for the kids at the top.
If being #1 has no more merit than being #100, why bother?

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Yeah , academics are definitely not a point of emphasis these days like when I came up, and I think it shows. Look at who we elect.

zeuser Level 9 June 14, 2018
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