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I honestly don't understand how so many people escape the bonds of religion, to remain entangled in the political party of the evangelicals.

I posit that republicans are tainted by religion no matter their claims to the contrary.
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dellik 6 June 30

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If Republicans didnt act like a cult where if you vote or act differently than the mass than you are kicked to the curb than there may be less truth but they are therefore because they are religious they all must be or they wouldnt be Republicans. They have no respect for the separation of church and state.

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not only that but they generally accept science as atheist, which is about learning new things advancing not stuck in the past. the gop is not and never has been fiscally responsible. i have never gotten a reasonable answer from a conservative atheist. though i few i have talked to seamed to be into guns. i can't even imagine ignoring all the crap from the gop, just because you like guns. nobody wants there guns, we just want them regulated and not to sell cannons and tanks and assault type weapons to the general public, especially if they have any record of mental illness and or been treated for depression. but then again after saying all that, i have run into atheist, that are racist, ones that think ancient aliens are real, and one most recent ran some related alien crap by me claiming this guy debunked evolution, when i researched the guy, turns out he was tied to the nutjobs from ancient aliens. lmao this is why i remind people atheist is only an answer to do you currently have a belief a god exist. not may exist, not if evidence comes forward. now. right now. do you have a belief a god exist. the battle with agnostics. its always something. lol

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The evangelicals vote Republican against their own interests.

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They seem to be attracted to authoritarianism and rank high regarding death anxiety. I read a meta-study a while back showing that those who were politically conservative tended to have been raised in an authoritarian home, by strick caregivers which demanded obedience. In other studies, researchers found that conservatives had increased gray matter volume in their right amygdala (associated with fear).

Researchers said that conservative ideologies, like virtually all belief systems, develop in part because they satisfy some psychological needs.

"Analyzing political conservatism as motivated social cognition integrates theories of personality (authoritarianism, dogmatism-intolerance of ambiguity), epistemic and existential needs (for closure, regulatory focus, terror management), and ideological rationalization (social dominance, system justification). A meta-analysis (88 samples, 12 countries, 22,818 cases) confirms that several psychological variables predict political conservatism: death anxiety; system instability; dogmatism-intolerance of ambiguity; openness to experience; needs for order, structure, and closure; integrative complexity; fear of threat and loss; and self-esteem. The core ideology of conservatism stresses resistance to change and justification of inequality and is motivated by needs that vary situationally and dispositionally to manage uncertainty and threat."

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It will get worse as long as they preach from the pulpit. There was a reason for the separation of church and state in the Constitution and that was to get rid of the church in politics. The republicans have found election power supporting evangelicals desires. They could care less personally as they have the money to avoid their desires. Money can get what they want from abortions to contraceptives.

Marine Level 8 June 30, 2018
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I would say that the foundation of conservatism is fear and the hatred that springs from that fear. It doesn't have to be based in religion but I agree that religion is all about instilling fear in people in order to make them subservient to their will.

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Yup.

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I am not qualified to make an argument regarding the Republican Party as I am neither an American citizen nor do I live in the USA. I do however, live in N.Ireland and we have a political party here called the DUP......this is Democratic Unionist Party. There is nothing democratic at all about them as they have prevented same sex marriage and abortion being put on the statute book, by using an archane device called ”petition of concern”. They use this device to frustrate the will of the NI Assembly and the majority of the people. Because voting here is largely tribal most protestants vote for them even when they don’t actually agree with their policies. If they didn’t then Sinn Fein which is the main republican party could become the majority, it is the party most catholics vote for. There is a middle of the road party called Alliance which is the only party any sane person should consider voting for but alas, when it comes to the ballot box even normally moderate people revert to their tribal instincts. This party the DUP are just a branch of the extreme evangelical protestant illiberal movement that seems to getting stronger worldwide and which appears to be almost identical to your Republican party.

Yes I know how you feel. I live in Australia and we have the Liberal Party and the Labor Party and the Greens + other smaller independents. The Liberal Party Is getting more and more like followers of Trump and the Labor Party is not far behind. The only sane ones is the Green Party but they are being vilified by the media that is mostly owned by Rupert Murdoch.

@Jolanta Dear old Rupert, proof that hatred and fear can keep a person alive as long as love can. It's a half life full of cobwebs, spiders and snakes but technically still alive, just barely enough to spew his vile lies and hatred and fear into the world. Keep fighting the good fight for yourself and for the future generations.

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There is no religious political party, as politics and religion do not mix, the latter of which for that matter is also present in the democratic party. That jesus guy in the NT from the holy babble certainly advocated socialist points, he disdained personal wealth and told his followers to give what they had to others. I for one cannot understand why any of those who have escaped from religion would choose to align with an ideaology similar to that of that creep jesus? I am not tainted by religion, liberty is my "religion", so I think your rather crude assumption is inaccurate.

'politics and religion do not mix,' clearly you havent been paying attention.

The republican platform revolves around supposed religious teaching'
weak whataboutism mate.
your grasp on the subject material is whats 'crude'

@dellik No, politics and religion in reality do not mix. The problem lies in the fact that certain religious factions have infiltrated our politics, in particular the GOP. You want there to be more atheist conservatives like me to challenge the religious wingnuts that attempt to influence politics, believe me on that. I pay attention to details. The last part of your original comment is still inaccurate, not all of us conservatives are tainted by religious influence, and as I said before evangelical christianity has invaded both parties.

@dellik I also contend that the religious Republicans are not true conservatives, but simply put, theocrats in disguise. The core beliefs surrounding around individual liberties and free markets which comprise classic conservatism, do not go hand in hand with radical religious beliefs.

@SpikeTalon Fair, I accept that. And, while I most likely disagree with most everything else you support, You are 100% correct that I want someone sane voting on the other side. Maybe its entirely optics. to be blunt, its hard to really comprehend many of the right's stances, separate from the religious reasoning. While both sides have been infiltrated, the GOP is less 'infiltrated', and more 'infested'.

@SpikeTalon However, I don't claim all conservatives are tainted, specifically GOP'ers. self professed republicans. I can disagree with libertarians all day long, but they don't have the stink of religion all over them. I may disagree with their logic, but there is logic present.

@dellik Infested is a good way of putting it, more fitting for sure. I have no qualms with most Libertarians, and truth be told while I do consider myself conservative I am registered Independent. We could use some more conservative leaning atheists to challenge the religious goons, but those said conservatives need not have to be registered Republicans though.

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Maybe their both have as their values, utter nonsense.

gearl Level 7 June 30, 2018
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You mean like the Nevada pimp running on the GOP ticket? When evangelicals were asked to explain their support, the general response was akin to "At least he isn't a Democrat." Or maybe the Illinois nazi who secured the GOP nomination, after running unopposed, with nary a religious objection raised?

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A better question could be why do so many people that know that religion is fake buy into something even more fake politics.

azzow2 Level 9 June 30, 2018
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