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I’m completely deflated, angry, embarrassed, etc... with what’s going on in my country (the US), and I’m seriously considering a move to Canada or Europe.
Anyone else considering this? Thoughts?

HariT 4 July 6
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Speaking as an outsider (Australian), I would beg you to stay. If all the sensible people leave, what will become of your country then?

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Does anyone else find such questions hysterical? Most Americans don't consider if we are wanted by other countries before asking questions like these.

Hint: We are not. Especially if you are over 35 and not wealthy. Not Canada, not Great Britain and not certainly not Australia or New Zealand. No English speaking countries, nor Europe.

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No...because I still have faith in our nation and the people. "Faith." (Funny word for an atheist.) I believe we've weathered terrible storms in the past and we WILL get through this one, too.

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The grass is greener..

gater Level 7 July 7, 2018
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Yes, I have had these thoughts and lived in Europe twice before. It would be harder now being established with everything here, but sometimes I wonder if we will be the next refugees in the world.

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I can't afford it, or I'd already be gone.

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I agree with your comments, and my first choices for moving somewhere else would be Iceland or Norway. But at 79 it's not very practical. The better solution for all of us is to elect a Democratic majority in both the Senate and House in November, and stop the Trump dead in his tracks. Then elect a Democrat to replace Pence (He will have taken Trump's place after Trump is impeached, convicted, then pardoned) in 2020. Dreaming? Maybe, but Iceland and Norway are cold in the winter.

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Considered it before the election results came in...i am big on "what if".
Passport in order, RV needs only my prescription meds & dog food thrown in there, a quick call to my real estate contact in Canada, so when I get to the border I can say I am on my way to view property, voila!

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I've considered it but I'm stuck here because I'm not useful enough.

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I still think about emigrating to Scandinavian areas. I have also read on one of Sweden's big political persons lamenting letting Islamic people become residents there. I also think about the USA being a country that says you have to pay its government taxes that you make in those countries despite the one you are doesn't do that who are working in the US. I am also a big liker of biking and like the Copenhagen and Netherlands biking things but still have big quibbles with the US things.

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I have fantasized about relocating to Canada. But aside from the logistical challenges of uprooting a professional life and having to navigate transferral of professional licenses, which is not automatically possible, the expense of uprooting, and the complications to existing family and social ties, leaving does not in any way solve the problem of how a jack-booted nationalist U.S. will still damage world markets and the environment.

As it is, as a gay person, I have not ruled out moving back to my birth region--the Pacific Northwest, if being openly gay means I get targeted for violence and economic discrimination. So far, aside from occasional insults, it hasn't come to that, and promoting visibility everywhere is the only way to start to change people's prejudices.

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When George W. Bush stole his second presidential election, I felt so disillusioned, I looked into emigrating to Canada. But they were only taking doctors and physical therapists from America.

With a 14 year-old daughter, I couldn't leave. Discouraged, I spent my free time that winter curled up with a good book.

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