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Since becoming an atheist six years ago I have come to the conclusion religious people tend to be less honest and ethical.

This was reinforced last week when some people looked at the house I have up for sale, and said they liked it.

The next day they came back with their real estate agent and after another, the agent told me she would prepare a contract with my agent. No serious issues were then the way.

Then came words that told me she was not being honest: "Have a blessed day".

Still no contract.

DarrelScott 7 July 8
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The Lord works in mysterious ways !

@DarrelScott
For sure and can name a few more !

@DarrelScott
And don't forget Mohammed !

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I'm not sure there is any difference in honesty between theists an non theists. I could be wrong here but just trying to be "honest". I just haven't seen a scientific study on this subject and don't want to be hypocritical. I think a religious person is more obvious in his dishonesty because of his hypocrisy. That said I took a religious friend (preachers kid) as a partner in a plane that he talked me into and at the last minute said he'd have his share in two weeks. It's been four years now and the plane has been a disaster. Still waiting for his repayment. Still learning at my age.

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There are many things that may have come up that prevented this couple from going ahead with an offer on your house, it doesn't make them dishonest. The realtor is definitely behaving in an unprofessional manner although technically not unethical as you are not their client. The professional thing to do would have been to ring you up and tell you that for reasons they cannot disclose for confidentiality reason, the people are not able to put forth an offer on your house at this time. Realtors like the one you just dealt with are the main reason that true professionals cringe when real estate agents claim to be professionals.

@DarrelScott Sorry, but I am not seeing anything in this thread referencing a non existent problem, am I missing something?

@DarrelScott Easy enough to confirm or deny that opinion with a home inspection, they're pretty much standard procedure these days. Sometimes agents will move their clients towards buying a different property if they think they can make a higher commission. Are you offering the normal rate? Real estate agents often like to comment on things related to construction or building conditions that they have absolutely no credentials in, I guess it makes them feel like they are doing more than playing chauffeur to earn their commissions.
Sometimes people just change their minds and sometimes their financing falls through. Sometimes they get cold feet. Whatever the case, the agent should have called your agent or your agent should follow up to find out what is up, those would be professional actions.

@DarrelScott Most of my career I was a general contractor and master builder so eventually I got tired of paying out the exorbitant commissions in order to sell my homes. I took the course and became a realtor, then I took the broker's exam because I still had to split with the broker who held my realtor's license. It's a very twisted business for the most part and it is true that 20% or the realtors make 80% of the commissions but still it is a twisted business and professionalism is the exception and not the norm. There are plenty of nonreligious realtors who are just as unscrupulous as the religious ones but I must say there are more of the religious type. I even knew one realtor who joined a huge fundamentalist church to gain new clients after he had burned all of his contacts on the police force where he used to work and farm for clients. I would pursue it just for the sense of satisfaction but if they haven't come back by now then they probably aren't coming with an offer and if they do it will probably have nothing but trouble attached to it.

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The problem with theists is that they believe that with a magic prayer they are absolve from any fault, from any "sin" , they're not responsible for their actions, like i teach my little daughter "first you say I'm sorry then how can I help" .

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You are absolutely correct. I read a book a short while ago with substantiating facts along this line. It might have been The Undoing Project? Anyway, it's not your imagination! Data does not lie.

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It's okay. They're forgiven.

<<< For those not able to tell, that statement was not merely dripping with sarcasm, it was drenched... drowning even. But not baptized. >>>

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I have come to the same conclusion. They are much better at justifying things to themselves, which is how they still believe and they use those same justification skills to make whatever they want to do seem right.

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I’ve concluded the same. Assuming these ‘family values’ type would have dropped their support for the most blatant liar and morally corrupt president of my lifetime … they cling to him even tighter! For all the hammering of Atheists from that side -- we’ve more morals in our thumbnails than these so-called ‘believers.’

I’ve the privilege of working with some college graduate age ‘youth,’ they’re full of questions ..and appear to value my opinions. Religion’s a jucy topic.. where all in earshot recently agreed with my observation that anyone ‘doing right’ for fear of punishishment apparently lacks the morals or values of those doing right of their own volition.

I’ve recently concluded - the religious are so good at accepting or proclaiming lies because they do it so often! Constantly lying to themselves about the existence of ‘a loving god,’ lying to anyone else - for any reason, appears to become natural. They make me sick. Lying to your face, behind your back, to their so-called friends, to their families…

In my youth, post college age.. along with my brother, we sought out and attended the American Atheist chapter meetings in Portland, Oregon … and wherever whomever met after that.. What I found instantly impressive what how honest and trustworthy these folks were ..realizing I could set my billfold anywhere within the room - and know it would be instantly returned to me if found. Truly the best..

Varn Level 8 July 8, 2018
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The ability to pathologically lie is more innate to a real estate agent than a theist or atheist.

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Sounds like something they say in the Handmaid’s Tale,.....creepy!

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