@JustKip There are numbers backing that up? I find that very difficult to believe as so little is reported to begin with.

I was an athlete in my younger days on some pretty serious team (not Pro) and you wouldn't believe the authority coaches have over kids. It happens anywhere trusted adults (and older kids tbh) prove untrustworthy.

Guess which kids especially young males are unlikely to report things like that?

So maybe I missed the point but it seems like trying to create a narrative which I have never seen any proof for

@JustKip Yeah so I am NOT missing the point. I am refusing to accept your narrative no matter how strong your assertion. I still have not seen where the clergy % of deviants is so much greater than coaches, or teachers, or friends and family, or bus drivers, or even with older kids that significantly or at all, alters the risk that the devout are taking with regard children's welfare than an atheist. You can draw as many Venn diagrams as you want intersecting the possible exposure to sexual abuse, the assertion is no more true until you have actual statistics to back it up

Statements/comments like this is why I became an atheist in the first place. It is hypocritical and attacking a specific group of people for absolutely no gain other than to point out another reason you think they are wrong. We are better than you because we don't have a group socialization aspect associated with our belief? They are wrong to believe in god because crappy people can found everywhere including religious organizations...shocking. Makes anyone with kids seem like a bad person simply for bringing children into a world we are destroying on top of exposing them to crappy people. Parents do not subject their children to risk intentionally no matter what they believe...well some maybe but crappy parents aren't the point. Your point are the crappy ones that believe in God, follow a religion and force their children into situations they may be with adults unsupervised, more than atheist parents.

Sexual abuse of children is deviant criminal behavior and no "organization" supports it or allows it so they definitely do not want to admit it when they find it. It happens in every facet of life where a trusted adult is capable of being alone with children...the end. To assert religious parents are worse for exposing their children to yet another potential situation for sexual abuse is just....awful.

Not sure exactly how everyone's deviant-meter works but this is NOT a reason to be an atheist imo...more of a reason not to have children. I would say the childless have 0 risk of their children being abused but what is the point of that? Are all atheists that have kids crappier parents than me...more irresponsible/worse atheists for exposing their children to known risks I did not want to? I mean the world we live in contributed to my deciding not having children was OK with me. Just a flat out terrible unproven assertion attacking imo.

The fact that you dislike the workings of nature has no bearing on the question.

@WilliamFleming I see him addressing a god question, NOT a nature question.

@WilliamFleming Exactly. Evangelicals think god heals cancer. I find no proof of this.