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Your views on physicodelics? a couple of LSD trips really changed my sense of reality.I could understand the language of the trees, and the deep relationships with all living and non living things. I know I was hallucinating but the experience nurtured my life in such a way that it made me a better individual. I think everyone should have this kind of experience if the person is willing to. Your thoughts?

ruben68 5 July 25
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Not everyone should experiment with drugs. A large percentage do get psychotic bad episodes, this is not to be taken lightly.

In all my years and living in different places never have I ever seen or heard firsthand of anyone having a bad trip. We did a lot of drugs (including blotter) while off duty in Germany. Undoubtedly bad trips happen but "A large percentage do get psychotic bad episodes"?
Just my experiences with tripping.

@MacTavish As I have ties to people who work in the health industry I have heard different from what you have.

@Jolanta Just like bad restaurants people will talk about for ages while the majority are good and no one complains. Human nature i guess.

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Studies suggest psilocybin acts as a "lubricant for the mind" that allows people to escape a cycle of depressive symptoms
One study gave 19 patients a single dose of the psychedelic ingredient psilocybin. Half the patients ceased to be depressed and experienced changes in their brain activity that lasted about five weeks

The team at Imperial performed fMRI brain scans before treatment with psilocybin and then the day after (when the patients were "sober" again).
The study, published in the journal Scientific Reports, showed psilocybin affected two key areas of the brain.

The amygdala - which is heavily involved in how we process emotions such as fear and anxiety - became less active. The greater the reduction, the greater the improvement in reported symptoms.
The default-mode network - a collaboration of different brain regions - became more stable after taking psilocybin.
Dr Robin Carhart-Harris, head of psychedelic research at Imperial, said the depressed brain was being "clammed up" and the psychedelic experience "reset" it.

BBC News - Magic mushrooms can 'reset' depressed brain [bbc.com]

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Yes. I did a lot of psychedelics back in the day, and it definitely changed me and shaped my thinking. There's a book out now buy Michael Pollan called "How to Change Your Mind" about psychedelics. He researched them thoroughly and took them several times and writes about what he discovered.

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I did alot of acid from 76 to 94. For me, it was a mind enema. It cleaned out all the bullshit for about 8 hours. There was an incredible amount of laughing and food tasted like aluminum foil. Great times.

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Back in high school days, I used to eat acid like pez. I got to the point that I didn’t need it anymore, I saw reality just fine without it. That was decades ago, I think I’m ready to do some more.

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I've heard this from multiple sources, including my own wife, who tried everything once or twice it seems, in her salad days. The only thing I took her up on was pot. Didn't see what all the fuss was about though. Even she felt it didn't impress her like she remembered it doing years ago.

I'd try LSD in a properly controlled situation (known dosage and purity, professionally administered). It's too bad that society has overreacted in outlawing that kind of research.

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I tried them a handful of times when I was in my twenties. Twenty years later, I'm finding myself curious again because of the beneficial effects I've been reading/hearing about. Still doing the internal debate.

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Please do not take any more! "The language of the trees"......??!???!?

I just took it twice several years ago. The language of the trees means that I realize they communicate and we don't understand because we are so busy with the current rush of our lifes we just don't pay attention. They are living things and as a matter of fact all living things have a common ancestor. I am not getting out of my mind!!!. The only drug I take now is good wine and beer.

@CrazyQuilter i have in fact caressed quite a few trees in my life, but i do not think they want us joining their conversations! Kind of like party-crashing, no?

@CrazyQuilter right on!!

It’s proven fact that trees and plants communicate via chemicals. They trigger each other to flower, ditch their leaves and other such responses to seasonal change. Look it up!

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No thoughts other than I have never had any interest. My reality is crazy enough as it is.

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I read every single one of Carlos Castaneda's books. They were great.

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I tried mushrooms one time while camping. We were in the middle of no where and the first time I had ever tried anything like that. It was all well and good at first. Then out of no where the cops showed up. I was flipping. My buddies did all the talking and the cops eventually left. But I didn't stop flipping out until the next morning. Every little noise I heard I thought was the police. I didn't want a fire going or any food being cooked. I tried running off into the woods but my friends talked me out of it. Needless to say it was a bad trip. I haven't touched anything like that since.

dam i bet that sucked!!

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I experienced a lot in my prime, tried just about everything that didn't imply needles. Some were bad idea from the start (pcp) but taught me a lot about researching before trying... 😛

Best experiences were with mushrooms (Psilocybin). I do agree that it can be enlightening, and can widen consciousness perceptions. I can relate to your comment about "knowing you were hallucinating", for me that was part of the enlightening, being aware of my own consciousness being altered gave me new perspective on the very notion of "awareness".

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I did a lot of different variations of acid from 96-2005. Taking some breaks here and there. It was definitely an amazing, mind-opening experience. I was lucky enough to never have a "bad trip" and I do not oppose to trying in any way.

I added a great book I read I think in 2003, that was lots of fun in RE: LSD experiences and thinking.

Source:

The Doors of Perception & Heaven and Hell: Two Complete Nonfiction Works (Perennial Classics) [amazon.com]

Sirena Level 7 July 25, 2018
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Was tripping on LSD one night with some friends. We were camping out by the river. The one thing that stands out from that night was my friends black teeth. We had gone to the store to buy beer and under those fluorescent lights her teeth were nasty, and so stained they looked black. This was over 30 years ago.

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No, drugs are risky. I don't need drugs to experience anything I choose to experience. I just need a quiet space.

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I am currently reading How to Change your Mind by Michael Pollan. Very interesting. There is much buzz about all these drugs lately like in the 1950s when first discovered. Outlawed in 1963 but some research continued. Bill Wilson of AA originally thought it should be part of the protocol. I think if it can do some good for anxiety, depression, OCD, schizophrenia, PTSD, addiction or other mental trauma then we need to keep an open mind.

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For me, it was the same. I never saw reality, nature and humor in quite the same way as before. It was a enriching experience and I am better for it, but I don’t want to do it again, as bad trips are really bad!

Livia Level 6 Sep 1, 2018
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It is suggested that psilocybin mushrooms are what could be "the missing link" in human evolution. Causing us to expand our mind and work as better hunters and members of organized civilizations. Psychedelics help to dissolve the ego and give you sense of unity with others, the world, and the universe. I've had profound experiences on psychedelics and would advocate highly for them.

I read about it. Very nice hypothesis

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Definitely had some experiences in my early twenties with shrooms, LSD and mescaline. I always wanted to try peyote-never got my hands on it. I thought my safe window to do psychedelics had long since passed. It is seeming to pop up more about the benefits, ayahuasca is the most intriguing to me. I’m just not sure how I’d react at this point in life.

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i can't believe no mention of salvia

Tell us about it.

@ruben68 they say it's the strongest hallucinogen. smoked, it lasts about 3 minutes. intense. and it will give you a brand new outlook. it's still legal in a few states - arizona to name one. but texas is one place where doc anderson has taken care of it being illegal. it's worth doing once if you like that sort of thing. it's really really really awesome. you actually halucinate as opposed to seeing things bend and drip and sag. it's visual and auditory. watch cartoons as you do it and it's like BEING IN the cartoon. i've sat on the side of a river fishing when hank hill was in a boat in the river. you got to try it to know what i mean.

Salvia is definitely up on the ladder but DMT and mescaline are by far the most intense. DMT is the main psychotropic In ayahuasca. Mescaline is derived from peyote. Both are extremely intense and have been used in the religious practices of indigenous peoples for hundreds, possibly thousands of years. If you thought salvia was the bees knees I would recommend you try one of these.

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LSD used to be my drug of choice when I was younger. You can have some amazing times with it! It's been years since I've indulged in anything besides alcohol though.

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(I'm not advocating) LSD and psilocybin are much less lethal than alcohol and also non-addictive according to many studies.
as for harm caused by drugs, these 2 are also way safe.

Lukian Level 8 July 25, 2018
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I would be afraid to try anything like this. I just do not know enough about the brain and possible adverse effects later on.

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Trying microdosing. Just started so no reports. Anyone else?

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Hey i've done shrooms and changa, never LSD. The trips too long for me

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Within the context of a culture/society that values and honors them and considers them "sacred", under the guidance of a teacher/healer/guide who is fully trained and vetted, with a substance that is fully understood and properly sourced, prepared, dosed, etc. and with the "correct" mindset, ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY!

Without those elements, forget it. (For discussion of comparable dynamics, see the recent post by "Anonymous" on the "cost" of superficial yoga/meditation practice, as bastardized by Western captains of industry and heedlessly ingested by certain strains of shallow trendsters.)

@daylily Yeah I totally agree; there's a lot of unspoken wiggle room in my above stipulations. E.g. I would have no problem doing shrooms myself at this point bc 1) I've talked to a lot of friends and people in general over the years and I pretty consistently heard the same kinds of thi ngs over and over--which sounds like reliable info (and none of it dangerous or particularly unpleasant)--so there's the cultural support and knowledge piece; and 2) we are seeing studies done, recently, which seem to show that shrooms can have powerful therapeutic effects on depression, etc.; 3) I have been interested in herbal/plant-based medicine for a long time; 4) I trust myself to have a "right view" re: the use of this (or any) substance; 5) I've got a few options for experienced sitters amongst people I trust, so I'm good there. If it were Ayahuasca or peyote or something I'd want to be doing it legit culturally--ideally. The main thing is to make sure you you have enough info to stay safe--which often comes in some kind of indigenous-cultural wrapping. Not always though.

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